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Yes. All capacitors leak, although not much. Then again, so do batteries.
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Meet the ev dodge charger that can wax a hellcat :smt045

CNN: Dodge revs up very loud electric muscle car.
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EV owners in U.S. frustrated by public charging infrastructure: J.D. Power

A growing frustration with charging equipment that doesn't work
In a survey of more than 11,550 drivers, the firm found that one in five didn’t manage to charge their vehicle during a visit to a station. Of those that didn’t get their vehicles charged, 72 per cent blamed faulty equipment.
https://driving.ca/auto-news/driver-inf ... -j-d-power
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Just for a better comparison , this is the tech that the ice car addicts compare to their 100 years of development to when they compare current ice cars to current ev cars .

https://infoditore.info/2022/05/29/100- ... he-was-16/
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captkirkcanada wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 2:17 pm Just for a better comparison , this is the tech that the ice car addicts compare to their 100 years of development to when they compare current ice cars to current ev cars .

https://infoditore.info/2022/05/29/100- ... he-was-16/
There are electric cars older than that. Electric is the dinosaur of vehicles. That's why they went extinct.
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Ev was never developed because of lobby groups that saw oil as a way to get rich quick. It is being devoloped now because if it isnt there wont be cars or trucks .
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Kroynon wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 2:34 pm
captkirkcanada wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 2:17 pm Just for a better comparison , this is the tech that the ice car addicts compare to their 100 years of development to when they compare current ice cars to current ev cars .

https://infoditore.info/2022/05/29/100- ... he-was-16/
There are electric cars older than that. Electric is the dinosaur of vehicles. That's why they went extinct.
No, the fact that electric cars didn't get a headstart had nothing to do with the convenience of energy storage in gasoline versus the battery technology of the time </sarcasm> ... taking the easy way out is not new, it's just usually the route that causes more issues in the long run ...
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spooker wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 4:59 pm
Kroynon wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 2:34 pm
There are electric cars older than that. Electric is the dinosaur of vehicles. That's why they went extinct.
No, the fact that electric cars didn't get a headstart had nothing to do with the convenience of energy storage in gasoline versus the battery technology of the time </sarcasm> ...
Which still holds true over a hundred years later.
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I'm glad we haven't been manufacturing and throwing away batteries that would have powered everything that used an ICE for the last 100 years.
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Kroynon wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 5:25 pm I'm glad we haven't been manufacturing and throwing away batteries that would have powered everything that used an ICE for the last 100 years.
But if we had had the same 100 years of technology development for batteries we might be much further ahead and not have everyone harping on about "oh no, the environment" when we're trying to do better for the environment that ICE technology has graced us with ...
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spooker wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 6:47 pm
Kroynon wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 5:25 pm I'm glad we haven't been manufacturing and throwing away batteries that would have powered everything that used an ICE for the last 100 years.
But if we had had the same 100 years of technology development for batteries we might be much further ahead and not have everyone harping on about "oh no, the environment" when we're trying to do better for the environment that ICE technology has graced us with ...
An interesting thought experiment for sure but where we are now, I don't see how continuing to harm the environment only with different substances and energy sources as a solution.
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spooker wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 6:47 pm
Kroynon wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 5:25 pm I'm glad we haven't been manufacturing and throwing away batteries that would have powered everything that used an ICE for the last 100 years.
But if we had had the same 100 years of technology development for batteries we might be much further ahead and not have everyone harping on about "oh no, the environment" when we're trying to do better for the environment that ICE technology has graced us with ...
yea , that is the exact part of this adventure being skipped over by a few folks. jay leno talks about early cars and they have lots of problems. it is something that can be observed in real time . the stanley steamer he has is wild but a full time job to go anywhere lol plus he employs mechanics full time to keep fixing the ones he drives .
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captkirkcanada wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 9:51 pm
spooker wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 6:47 pm

But if we had had the same 100 years of technology development for batteries we might be much further ahead and not have everyone harping on about "oh no, the environment" when we're trying to do better for the environment that ICE technology has graced us with ...
yea , that is the exact part of this adventure being skipped over by a few folks. jay leno talks about early cars and they have lots of problems. it is something that can be observed in real time . the stanley steamer he has is wild but a full time job to go anywhere lol plus he employs mechanics full time to keep fixing the ones he drives .
Well, batteries actually have been developed for the last 100 years, they just haven't really been used for cars much because they suck compared to gasoline. They work ok in tv remotes though.
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Kroynon wrote: Aug 21st, 2022, 4:40 am
captkirkcanada wrote: Aug 20th, 2022, 9:51 pm

yea , that is the exact part of this adventure being skipped over by a few folks. jay leno talks about early cars and they have lots of problems. it is something that can be observed in real time . the stanley steamer he has is wild but a full time job to go anywhere lol plus he employs mechanics full time to keep fixing the ones he drives .
Well, batteries actually have been developed for the last 100 years, they just haven't really been used for cars much because they suck compared to gasoline. They work ok in tv remotes though.
Though like typical human nature, we built our electronics to fit the capacity of the batteries we had, the easy route ... Li-Ion batteries were developed just in time to help the laptop movement take off in the late 90s ... now we have quite the motivation to develop better battery storage since everyone is being stubborn and saying they won't even contemplate an EV without the range to get from Kelowna to AB ...
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spooker wrote: Aug 21st, 2022, 9:11 am
Kroynon wrote: Aug 21st, 2022, 4:40 am

Well, batteries actually have been developed for the last 100 years, they just haven't really been used for cars much because they suck compared to gasoline. They work ok in tv remotes though.
Though like typical human nature, we built our electronics to fit the capacity of the batteries we had, the easy route ... Li-Ion batteries were developed just in time to help the laptop movement take off in the late 90s ... now we have quite the motivation to develop better battery storage since everyone is being stubborn and saying they won't even contemplate an EV without the range to get from Kelowna to AB ...
Let's hope with the profits available now for finding better batteries that a viable alternative to the ICE is made available. That also includes viable energy to charge them.
I'll wait and be first in line if/when that happens. Right now, evs are not really helping anyone.

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