Electric Vehicles

[LovemyBolt]

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No road tax for EVs, but road tax for gas vehicles.

EVs have become car dealers dream come true, a reason to trade-in your old car and buy the latest new gadget. $$$. Oh and they’ve even got the governments subsidizing the purchases, and giving a free-pass for EVs for road tax $$$ Auto industry bonanza! While our roads turn into sh.t
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When will the gov implement road taxes for EVs ?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfound ... -1.6449038
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Renters don't pay property taxes therefore the bus system is being subsidized by homeowners. Nor the library. I guess they can't borrow books from the library. Nor the regional district. I guess they can't make use of the RD parks. Nor the hospital. I guess they have to die on the streets which they aren't paying for either if they're bus users. Nor water. I guess they have to always buy expensive bottled water.
Oh the humanity for all the inequities in modern society.
How many people rush out to get the latest greatest iphone? etc.

[YzzzR1]

I know taxes are hard for some but, every private property pays taxes. Therefore, anyone paying rent is indirectly paying part or all of the property tax. Any competent landlord/owner will make sure his expenses including property taxes, at minimum, are covered.

[LovemyBolt]

I know taxes are hard for some but, every private property pays taxes. Therefore, anyone paying rent is indirectly paying part or all of the property tax. Any competent landlord/owner will make sure his expenses including property taxes, at minimum, are covered.

Of course. But the renter is not paying the bill. The owner is. The renter's just renting.
At the end of the day, we're all paying taxes somewhere somehow. We all see those tax dollars go to things we don't agree with. Those recipients won't agree with whatever you are enjoying from the tax dollars and they're not. It goes both ways. It's how we all get along in a civil society. To be whining about EV's not paying for the roads by way of gas taxes is just sour grapes. So buy an EV if that bothers you so much and make use of the perceived advantage.

[nepal]

I know taxes are hard for some but, every private property pays taxes. Therefore, anyone paying rent is indirectly paying part or all of the property tax. Any competent landlord/owner will make sure his expenses including property taxes, at minimum, are covered.

Of course. But the renter is not paying the bill. The owner is. The renter's just renting.
At the end of the day, we're all paying taxes somewhere somehow. We all see those tax dollars go to things we don't agree with. Those recipients won't agree with whatever you are enjoying from the tax dollars and they're not. It goes both ways. It's how we all get along in a civil society. To be whining about EV's not paying for the roads by way of gas taxes is just sour grapes. So buy an EV if that bothers you so much and make use of the perceived advantage.

YzzzR1, you tried, but reality doesn’t compute for some people. No wonder our government is often in a mess.

[Jlabute]

There were two Tesla fires in Korea. The second Tesla of fire, exploded shortly after the driver was rescued and pulled to safety. It took 17 firetrucks one hour and 18 minutes to put the blaze out. I hope there were no emergencies elsewhere.

“Two days earlier, a Tesla X caught on fire while sitting at a Tesla service center in Seongdong District, eastern Seoul. It took three hours to extinguish the fire, with 27 fire trucks responding. No injuries or casualties were reported by the fire department.”

One day, there won’t be enough fire trucks.

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/20 ... 21478.html

[LovemyBolt]

YzzzR1, you tried, but reality doesn’t compute for some people. No wonder our government is often in a mess.

Shall I explain all about how the words "of course" work? I acknowledged that the bill is being paid somehow. But the renter isn't paying it. They're not getting the assessment. They're not having to have the cash on the first business day of July.

Of course when I buy a tomato I'm indirectly paying the property owner where the tomato is grown, the water and fertilizer and electricity, the labour to care for it, pick it, pack it, load it, the truck, the fuel, the driver, the storage facility, the property owner of the store, the electricity of the store, the marketing and admin of the store, the labour to unload it, open it, display it, sell it. I walk out the door with my tomato not caring that I paid for all that indirectly. I got my tomato in exchange for some money given to the store. The renter got space to live.
This reality doesn’t compute for some people. No wonder our government that we all elect including those that disagree with their policies and expenditures do what they can for all people including those that didn't vote for them.

[YzzzR1]

Of course. But the renter is not paying the bill. The owner is. The renter's just renting.
At the end of the day, we're all paying taxes somewhere somehow. We all see those tax dollars go to things we don't agree with. Those recipients won't agree with whatever you are enjoying from the tax dollars and they're not. It goes both ways. It's how we all get along in a civil society. To be whining about EV's not paying for the roads by way of gas taxes is just sour grapes. So buy an EV if that bothers you so much and make use of the perceived advantage.

YzzzR1, you tried, but reality doesn’t compute for some people. No wonder our government is often in a mess.

I've given up trying to discuss anything economic with the looney left and their form of fiscal management. It's like trying to reason with a bratty spoiled kidlet stompin' their little feet 'cause 'they don't wanna'.

[dirtybiker]

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[rustled]

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Ah, so THAT's how they're contributing their share of the road tax. Unless they're using marked gas!

[hozzle]

Heads up !!!

[Jlabute]

Poor Bolt owner. I suppose Alaska should ban EVs in order to avoid harm to citizens, in the form of garage fires and frustration.

An electric vehicle owner from rural Alaska found out that owning an EV is less than ideal when she was told it would take four years for her to get a replacement battery pack for her Chevy Bolt.

Patricia Atkinson, who lives in Sitka, in Southeast Alaska, a town so small and isolated it has no public charging stations, bought her electric car from a dealer in Seattle, Washington. She had to travel to Washington to buy the car because there are no car dealers in her small town. But recently she was told that her EV is the subject of a fire hazard recall that has affected around 140,000 Bolts.

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The Juneau car dealer explained that it is not to blame. The manufacturer only allows the dealer enough supplies for eight battery pack swaps a month and with hundreds of EV owners on a waiting list for the repair, Atkinson’s slot is quite a few years down the road.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/ev-o ... -years-get

[LovemyBolt]

Poor Bolt owner. I suppose Alaska should ban EVs in order to avoid harm to citizens, in the form of garage fires and frustration.

I had mine done the week after it opened up to be available. My year was the peak focus of problem batteries. There were barely a couple few earlier year ones and one 2020. None after. There is a wildly rare chance this is a problem for this owner let alone to have to park the car or even using the cautions from Chev. She will even enjoy a whole other 8 years of warranty whenever she does get around to getting it replaced.
Stupid sensational click bait "news" item. Is this the kind of crap news people consume? Oh wait...Rebel and Fox News...right. sheesh.

[spooker]

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No road tax for EVs, but road tax for gas vehicles.

EVs have become car dealers dream come true, a reason to trade-in your old car and buy the latest new gadget. $$$. Oh and they’ve even got the governments subsidizing the purchases, and giving a free-pass for EVs for road tax $$$ Auto industry bonanza! While our roads turn into sh.t
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When will the gov implement road taxes for EVs ?

Of course since we don't have a "road tax" it does come back to do fuel taxes actually pay for the highways?

They collect about $5B in fuel taxes each year but even in 2011 the provincial expenditure on roads (outside the municipalities so we aren't talking directly property tax funding) was over $13B ... and considering that only about $2B goes back to the provinces I'd say that's a lot of misunderstood funding

[Jlabute]

Electric car makers put the brakes on production because many drivers think the vehicles are too expensive. Apparently sales are flat-lining now that the few wealthy people who want EVs, have them.

It is now expected that the UK will produce 280,000 fully electric cars and vans in 2025, down from previous estimates of 360,000.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... e-to-sell/

[nepal]

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For exiting EV owners, so much for saving on energy. The value of their EV vehicle just took a big hit.