Electric Vehicles

[BC Landlord]

So, if you ever contemplate switching to an electric vehicle, bear in mind that there will be no trading it in for a next one. But these eco-zealots would spare no efforts in convincing you how you actually don't need a personal vehicle. And you'll be "happy and own nothing".

[spooker]

So, if you ever contemplate switching to an electric vehicle, bear in mind that there will be no trading it in for a next one. But these eco-zealots would spare no efforts in convincing you how you actually don't need a personal vehicle. And you'll be "happy and own nothing".

All the name calling reminds me of the studies which found people in cars didn't see people on bike as human ... but somehow it seems that just to disagree isn't enough anymore ...

It would be nice if electric vehicles would solve more problems for us by their nature but as we can see they don't do enough ... but that can be more attributed to how we've boxed ourselves into feeling that we require a personal vehicle all the time ...

And for the Elon fanboys, it was sad reading about the radar sensor debacle for self-driving ...

https://electrek.co/2023/03/21/tesla-en ... f-driving/

[LovemyBolt]

All the name calling reminds me of the studies which found people in cars didn't see people on bike as human ... but somehow it seems that just to disagree isn't enough anymore ...

The name calling should be done down in bickering. There is little to no sane discussion around here. Here or bickering. It's why I've been quiet. We've covered all this ground before. The naysayers like to repeat and repeat. What's that saying, tell it enough it becomes true. I guess they think that.
Love My Bolt
I don't care if you don't. I care about lies and misinformation though. I also don't evangelize about getting one. I don't care what your choices are. My choice was to not be buying gas shelling out the money on a constant basis.

[BC Landlord]

The name calling should be done down in bickering. There is little to no sane discussion around here. Here or bickering. It's why I've been quiet. We've covered all this ground before. The naysayers like to repeat and repeat. What's that saying, tell it enough it becomes true. I guess they think that.
Love My Bolt
I don't care if you don't. I care about lies and misinformation though. I also don't evangelize about getting one. I don't care what your choices are. My choice was to not be buying gas shelling out the money on a constant basis.

Geesh , ... Could you please decipher it in plain English?

[77TA]

Charger anxiety

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/417485 ... ing-access

[LovemyBolt]

Charger anxiety

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/417485 ... ing-access

Not me. The entire rest of the story was overwhelmingly positive too.
Although maybe a previous post needs some remedial reading classes.

[Jlabute]

FORD says EVs are causing them to lose billions and are looking for more handouts, viewing EVs as their startup. I suppose EV hummer, F150, and mustang demand is low. If only these vehicles were worth-the-while.


https://www.castanet.net/news/Business/ ... tup#417524

[77TA]

Charger anxiety

https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/417485 ... ing-access

Not me. The entire rest of the story was overwhelmingly positive too.
Although maybe a previous post needs some remedial reading classes.

Nothing about evs is positive. Toxic, low range, environmentally damaging money toilets. Some people need kindergarten refresher courses.

[nepal]

Europe EV sales down in 2023. It seems some governments are stopping subsidizing auto company profits. Car companies have been pocketing subsidies into increased prices, rather than passing subsidies to consumers to increase EV sales, (in Canada too). EV prices should have dropped by the amount of the subsidies, but car companies simply set net EV prices to whatever the market would pay, adding the subsidies to their profits.

EV ‘s still get a hidden subsidy, in that they don’t pay road maintenance/infrastructure taxes that are built into gasoline prices.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/e- ... 88b4c27cd8

[The Green Barbarian]

https://twitter.com/Factschaser/status/ ... 14912?s=20

[The Green Barbarian]

Why Ford Can Afford to Lose Billions on EVs
Federal subsidies and gasoline-powered trucks make the business too big to fail.

Stocks rallied for the most part on Thursday, but a notable exception was Ford Motor Co., which fell on the news that it will lose $3 billion this year on its electric-vehicle business. This is worth noting even if you’re not a Ford shareholder because U.S. taxpayers could end up paying more if the company can’t turn its green business around.

Ford attributes the losses to the growing pains of what is says is a start-up business in the venerable company. The auto maker said it still expects to earn between $9 billion and $11 billion in operating profit this year, though that’s owing to the sales of its traditional gas-powered vehicles. Its gas-guzzling F-Series pickup trucks are especially popular and profitable. Fossil fuels are essentially underwriting Ford’s green business, much as they do in the electric-power industry.

Ford said it will keep investing in EVs and expects to reach an operating-profit margin of 8% by the end of 2026. That will require dramatic changes in consumer tastes as well as whatever efficiencies Ford can engineer in its production process.

Ford can sustain losses on EVs in part because it is benefiting, directly or indirectly, from subsidies up and down the EV supply, production and service chain: battery production, sales to consumers, charging stations and more. The entire point of last year’s Inflation Reduction Act is to make EV production too big to fail. If consumers don’t want to buy EVs, for whatever reason, the government will keep subsidizing or mandating EVs until they do.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-elect ... 3yh66hnk45

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[Catsumi]

A genius business plan there! ^^^^

We…Ford… are willing to keep on losing money until you get it through your thick heads that you simply MUST purchase EVs, or you will go broke by being taxed to death to support us losing money because you did not purchase.

What a deal!

[DANSPEED]

These vehicles have no resale value whatsoever. Ten years into ownership, and with 70k miles on it, they are just junk. So much for "saving the planet".

LOL! ... and the replacement battery is most likely prorated! $1200 for labor! My last head gasket cost less. They really don't make EV batteries to be plug and play or do it yourself.

[Bsuds]

They really don't make EV batteries to be plug and play or do it yourself.

Not now but I wouldn't be at all surprised if that happens in the future.

[DANSPEED]

They really don't make EV batteries to be plug and play or do it yourself.

Not now but I wouldn't be at all surprised if that happens in the future.

They have to make them in such a way that repair shops stay in business. Shady mechanics will have to come up with a new line to replace "I found metal shavings in the oil pan." ... I bet EV electric motors aren't cheap to replace.