Electric Vehicles

[GordonH]

To expensive. I'd rather see a company that retrofits existing vehicles to be electrical.

Enjoy your search

[TylerM4]

To expensive. I'd rather see a company that retrofits existing vehicles to be electrical.

A retrofit is never going to be cheaper than something purpose built.

[JagXKR]

A retrofit is never going to be cheaper than something purpose built.

Currently it's expensive. You would be zapped in the pocket book. But I wouldn't be shocked to see costs lessen in the future. Some would find it electrifying.

[cyruslosco66]

UK has moved up banning fossil fuels by ten years .

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/uk-f ... 49129.html.

[Jlabute]

2030? That's nothing. Back in 2016, Austria said they would ban non electric vehicles for 2020. Austria is by far one of the best virtue fakers and I don't think the ban worked out. Quite a few countries are slated to ban fossil fuels for 2030. Norway is 2025, they are pretty good virtue fakers as well. All of these promises are useless if it can't be done. Even if it could be done, these virtue faking countries also want to switch to non-secure renewables (wind & solar) and they then end up being importers of electricity, like Germany. Of course, it is impossible for every country to be an importer of electricity, lol. Electric Vehicles will put an enormous demand on the grid with a heavy cost to the environment.

It is easy for any politician to say, yup, 2040 was a bad decision, it must be 2030 or sooner. When the time comes, their successors in power MUST push the phase-out date ahead. You never see any detailed plans on how it will be done. Vancouver plans to ban all ICE vehicles by 2030. Really? hahahahaha. I mean really? People who think this can happen do not live in reality and are totally uninformed. The phase-out process could start NOW in order to distribute vehicles. I would expect to see ALL dealerships carrying at least 80% of their stock as EV RIGHT NOW to accomplish any of this, but they can't. Instead, you're lucky to see a single EV on any lot at this time. Now we have the "Crown Speech" telling us enormous numbers of jobs are waiting in the green industry. Well, we've done this, tried that, and it failed. How many times do we have to waste tax-payer money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehicles#cite_note-Salzburger-32

https://www.sn.at/wirtschaft/oesterreich/umweltbundesamt-ab-2020-keine-diesel-und-benzinautos-mehr-1577830

[TylerM4]

Currently it's expensive. You would be zapped in the pocket book. But I wouldn't be shocked to see costs lessen in the future. Some would find it electrifying.

I enjoyed the puns but No, that's not how it works. You only retrofit when there is no option to buy purpose built. It's always going to be cheaper and better to purpose build than to retrofit.

RV's are a great example. There's a reason you don't see people building their own RV's out of a cargo trailer. I mean, sure it'll happen if they already have the cargo trailer, don't care about the final fit and finish, and consider the DIY labor costs as free - but 99.9% of people who want an RV are going to buy a purpose built RV instead of trying to retrofit their own.

[cyruslosco66]

U.K. wants to decarbonize thousands of trains .

https://www.intelligentliving.co/britai ... rain-lines

[OKkayak]

U.K. wants to decarbonize thousands of trains .

https://www.intelligentliving.co/britai ... rain-lines

Welcome to the 20th Century

Sincerely,

The rest of Europe.

[cyruslosco66]

A look at a tesla model 3 after 100 000 and the costs incured .

https://electrek.co/2020/09/26/tesla-mo ... radation/i

[Urban Cowboy]

Your link to me to an electric bike article.

This one took me to the Tesla article.....

https://electrek.co/2020/09/26/tesla-mo ... gradation/

[oldtrucker]

Yes. And a very important truck. Very important delivery.

Screenshot_2020-09-09 Budweiser brewer makes first beer delivery with Nikola semi truck - Roadshow.jpg

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/budw ... emi-truck/

Anheuser-Busch placed an order for 800 of the hydrogen-electric Nikola semi trucks last year as the beer brewer looks to turn its entire long-haul vehicle fleet into a zero-emissions one. By 2025, the company has committed to shaving 25% of its carbon emissions.

Whenever you see a Commercial Logistics trailer its probably carrying booze. They usually carry a 60,000 lb payload of beer out of the coast over the Coq. I wonder if they and the owner ops will be switching to hydro power or if they could even make a max weight 14 hour run on the Coq. in the winter.

[OKkayak]

A look at a tesla model 3 after 100 000 and the costs incured .

https://electrek.co/2020/09/26/tesla-mo ... radation/i

Plenty of real world examples that demonstrate the high costs involved in high mileage EVs, especially Tesla.

[cyruslosco66]

A look at a tesla model 3 after 100 000 and the costs incured .

https://electrek.co/2020/09/26/tesla-mo ... radation/i

Plenty of real world examples that demonstrate the high costs involved in high mileage EVs, especially Tesla.

Such as ? can rest of us have a look ?

[OKkayak]

Such as ? can rest of us have a look ?

Tesla only warrants their batteries for 8 years, mileage varies depending on the model and they only guarantee that the battery will not degrade past 70% during that time, so for those of you that are mathematically challenged, on a Model 3 Standard Range Plus with 400km range, thats a drop of 120km. New battery will easily cost you $12-15000 plus labour.

New charging port, $1000 plus. Your fancy little iPad, $3000 plus. All common failures.

Tesla has been leading the industry in some of the the most unreliable cars on the road, the industry average is 166 failures per 100 cars and Tesla is leading the pack at 250 failures per 100 cars.



And thats just initial quality, down the road is when it gets $$$$.

[Urban Cowboy]

Yikes.

That's certainly not a statistic to be envied.