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Anti-Virus Software.

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Does anyone have any recommendations for anti-virus software?

Either on-line or in-store sale.
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I always used AVG before MS tuned up defender making the need for secondary AV software almost obsolete.

I do however use Malware bytes because it targets all the newest bugs to come down the pipe in virtual "real" time but honestly, Defended claims to be effective in their regard also so maybe I am doing it for myself.

This of course all hinges on your having the latest win 10 updates and that you are using a PC.
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I used AVG for years but have just started my second year with BitDefender. Will admit that I got sucked into the paid version versus going with AVG-Free previously, AVG wasn't too intrusive but the ads and upsells got to me enough. AVG was effective and I didn't get infected at all.

Work was using Eset but it took up too many CPU cycles when background scanning. Right now we're doing some testing on alternatives but nothing useful to report yet.

BitDefender has been pretty slick, integrates well and plenty of database updates.

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alanjh595 wrote:Does anyone have any recommendations for anti-virus software?

Either on-line or in-store sale.
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The built in Windows defender is all you really need as long as you stay away from the "sketchy" websites.
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It is also expedient to have a means to image your HD and restore it. In case one gets hacked and your PC is held for ransom or you have viruses you know of that can't be cleaned, or your HD fails, all you have to do is restore your last good image. Depends how much protection you think is necessary and what sort of problems are most prevalent these days.

Acronis True Image is also a nice product in addition to anti-virus software.
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mexi cali wrote:I always used AVG before MS tuned up defender making the need for secondary AV software almost obsolete.

I do however use Malware bytes because it targets all the newest bugs to come down the pipe in virtual "real" time but honestly, Defended claims to be effective in their regard also so maybe I am doing it for myself.

This of course all hinges on your having the latest win 10 updates and that you are using a PC.
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Completely agree.

I've been using the Windows defender antivirus for over five years now, and never have had an issue.

Once every couple of months I'll run Malwarebytes also but it never finds anything.

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Jlabute wrote:It is also expedient to have a means to image your HD and restore it. In case one gets hacked and your PC is held for ransom or you have viruses you know of that can't be cleaned, or your HD fails, all you have to do is restore your last good image.
Great advise! ... I always run a few different virus scans and do a Windows integrity check before making an image. Imaging or even backing up a system with viruses or one that's corrupt is a complete waste of time. Macrium Reflect Free or Acronis are good choices.

IMO Windows Defender (with real-time protection on) and Malwarebytes free (manual scans) is probably all you need. My ASUS router has AiProtection which is suppose to protect me from network attacks. Nothing so far! ... Now back to castanet.ru [icon_lol2.gif]
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Avast has been doing its job for myself.
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Okay, thanks a lot people, I appreciate the advise. I think I will just stick to MS Defender.
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Never used any of that. Also, I think nowadays pretty much all operating systems have their own protections built-in. And, as an added level of precaution, try not to go to questionable/shady sites.
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Haven't ran an AV client in nearly a decade now. No regrets. I don't think a traditional AV client helps much these days anyway. Most compromises these days come in the form of known exploits (which a traditional AV client has a very hard time detecting) vs malicious files that shouldn't be clicked/run.

Here's my guidelines to avoiding malware:
- Illegal or questionable activity puts you higher at risk. Downloading movies and music is a risk. Much more risky is downloading cracked games. If you are pirating games it's a matter of when not if. Careful with porn sites - If you must, Stick to streaming only. Do not download content or applications that need to be installed.
- Stay away from "utilities". Browser search bars, registry cleaning, speed up your computer/internet, etc. Just don't. Most aren't worth the code they're written in, the few that actually provide value don't provide enough to make it worth the risk.
- Keep your OS version up to date. Install MS Patches as they come up.
- Watch your clicks. Nothing in life is free and that includes internet offers. Did that friend really just email you a scandalous picture or has their account been compromised?
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DANSPEED wrote:
Jlabute wrote:It is also expedient to have a means to image your HD and restore it. In case one gets hacked and your PC is held for ransom or you have viruses you know of that can't be cleaned, or your HD fails, all you have to do is restore your last good image.
Great advise! ... I always run a few different virus scans and do a Windows integrity check before making an image. Imaging or even backing up a system with viruses or one that's corrupt is a complete waste of time. Macrium Reflect Free or Acronis are good choices.

IMO Windows Defender (with real-time protection on) and Malwarebytes free (manual scans) is probably all you need. My ASUS router has AiProtection which is suppose to protect me from network attacks. Nothing so far! ... Now back to castanet.ru [icon_lol2.gif]
I see Macrium has a "free" edition. Thanks for that!

One thing that has boggled me is the many valuable companies held for ransom when the issue appears to be largely unpatched vulnerabilities, and to a lesser extent phishing emails and other various attacks. So keep your O/S and apps updated. As TylerM4 leads to, use third party software sparingly and only if really necessary. Even a conscientious user can still get infected.

Example: 7-zip could allow Arbitrary Code Execution. Software even though well intentioned may introduce vulnerabilities. So, update your 7-zip!
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A lot has changed since the early 2000's. Back in 2003 an RPC worm came out called Blaster which infected computers on the internet that were not protected by a router. It took advantage of a remote procedure call vulnerability. Since then there have been numerous ways over the years to remotely execute code to infect computers. Your computer might be sharing a network with other computers that are infected! I think we get complacent over time and believe all the vulnerabilities are worked out. Maybe that's true to a degree, maybe vulnerabilities are getting more difficult to find. AV didn't help against Blaster at the time. RCE or ACE viruses still exist and we can be sure the bad guys are still working on ways to penetrate your network and O/S before the good guys find the vulnerabilities. It is not just the O/S, but Apps, drivers, and CPUs too! Along came viruses called Meltdown and Spectre. I believe the work-around for them could make your computer run slower.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/h ... execution/

Update your O/S and apps. Remove apps you do not need. Use a router. Backup your data. Get a new CPU perhaps. Whether or not you use any AV I am not sure it matters much anymore, lol. Windows defender is just ok while others are much better. No AV is perfect. Still the most common problems are going to sites you shouldn't, but that doesn't ensure you are 100% safe.

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TylerM4 wrote: Apr 26th, 2021, 1:44 pm Haven't ran an AV client in nearly a decade now. No regrets. I don't think a traditional AV client helps much these days anyway. Most compromises these days come in the form of known exploits (which a traditional AV client has a very hard time detecting) vs malicious files that shouldn't be clicked/run.

Here's my guidelines to avoiding malware:
- Illegal or questionable activity puts you higher at risk. Downloading movies and music is a risk. Much more risky is downloading cracked games. If you are pirating games it's a matter of when not if. Careful with porn sites - If you must, Stick to streaming only. Do not download content or applications that need to be installed.
- Stay away from "utilities". Browser search bars, registry cleaning, speed up your computer/internet, etc. Just don't. Most aren't worth the code they're written in, the few that actually provide value don't provide enough to make it worth the risk.
- Keep your OS version up to date. Install MS Patches as they come up.
- Watch your clicks. Nothing in life is free and that includes internet offers. Did that friend really just email you a scandalous picture or has their account been compromised?
It might also be a good idea under Windows to create a non-administrator account, and use that for your daily activities. It could help prevent malware from running with administrator privileges.
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OldBlindDog wrote: May 25th, 2021, 10:20 pm
It might also be a good idea under Windows to create a non-administrator account, and use that for your daily activities. It could help prevent malware from running with administrator privileges.
Now here's a fella with some security knowledge :up:

I agree, using a non-admin account for your normal day to day computer use is a very good idea - great suggestion! :130:

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