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I saw what you did re EV power, but given that the answer is somewhat on the cheerful side, could you not challenge the AI by inputing the question differently, as in:

“Germany, Australia, California are cutting back on electrical useage, some with revolving brownouts, snd no one knows for how long this will go on. Is there enough electricity to power EVs?”

It is a biased question but I can’t help but wonder if the AI has a bias of its own
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Catsumi wrote: Dec 24th, 2022, 10:56 am I saw what you did re EV power, but given that the answer is somewhat on the cheerful side, could you not challenge the AI by inputing the question differently, as in:

“Germany, Australia, California are cutting back on electrical useage, some with revolving brownouts, snd no one knows for how long this will go on. Is there enough electricity to power EVs?”

It is a biased question but I can’t help but wonder if the AI has a bias of its own
I pasted your question exactly as you wrote it and this is the first response I got:
It is not uncommon for electricity grids to experience periods of high demand, especially during hot summer months when air conditioning usage increases. To meet this demand, utilities may implement measures such as rotating power outages, also known as rolling blackouts, to ensure that the grid remains stable.

As for the question of whether there is enough electricity to power electric vehicles (EVs), the answer depends on the specific location and the current state of the electricity grid. In general, the electricity grid is designed to meet the demand for electricity from all sources, including EVs. However, if the grid is already experiencing high demand and limited capacity, adding additional demand from EVs could potentially strain the system.

One solution to this potential issue is to increase the capacity of the grid through the construction of new power plants or the expansion of existing ones. Another solution is to implement demand-side management strategies, such as encouraging the use of EVs during off-peak hours when demand for electricity is lower.
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Why do people need religion
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Religion can serve many different functions in people's lives. It can provide a sense of purpose, meaning, and identity, as well as a sense of community and belonging. It can offer moral guidance and a sense of right and wrong, and can provide a framework for understanding and interpreting the world. For some people, religion also serves as a source of comfort and hope, particularly in times of suffering or adversity. Additionally, some people may find that participating in religious practices and rituals brings them a sense of peace and tranquility. Ultimately, the role of religion in people's lives can vary greatly depending on the individual and their personal beliefs and experiences.

The answers are interesting I note no question about the existance of a deity. The chat would make a great politican.
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From the link
Since ChatGPT provides responses to almost any query provided to it, I decided to use several political orientation tests to determine whether its answers display a skew toward any particular political ideology.

The results were consistent across tests. All four tests, the Pew Research Political Typology Quiz, the Political Compass Test, the World's Smallest Political Quiz and the Political Spectrum Quiz classified ChatGPT's answers to their questions as left-leaning
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Jonrox replied with this reply from AI:
It is not uncommon for electricity grids to experience periods of high demand, especially during hot summer months when air conditioning usage increases. To meet this demand, utilities may implement measures such as rotating power outages, also known as rolling blackouts, to ensure that the grid remains stable.

As for the question of whether there is enough electricity to power electric vehicles (EVs), the answer depends on the specific location and the current state of the electricity grid. In general, the electricity grid is designed to meet the demand for electricity from all sources, including EVs. However, if the grid is already experiencing high demand and limited capacity, adding additional demand from EVs could potentially strain the system.

One solution to this potential issue is to increase the capacity of the grid through the construction of new power plants or the expansion of existing ones. . Another solution is to implement demand-side management strategies, such as encouraging the use of EVs during off-peak hours when demand for electricity is lower

One could, after reading AI’s answer as being ‘politically neutral’, as it should be for world wide access. However, if one takes into account their own personal geographical and political area, it would seem that AI is not on the same page at all as the questioner all of the time.

For instance, our power grid may be in a crumbling state and the area is earthquake prone and politically unstable which would invalidate the whole following answer.

It also takes for granted that the electricity grid is so flexible that it can take on thousands of new customers without a hiccup(think of 500,000 new peeps annually in Canada), and that enlarging or building new dams is easily done, overlooking the mob hysteria and protests when this is attempted.

AI also overlooked the best source of electricity, nuclear.

So, it seems to be a generalizer in answering which is terrific for those who have no background knowledge for the question they are asking of AI.

And yes, from just this one answer it does seem a bit on the left politically. However in other Q&A’s it may not be.
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Catsumi wrote: Dec 25th, 2022, 10:01 am Jonrox replied with this reply from AI:
It is not uncommon for electricity grids to experience periods of high demand, especially during hot summer months when air conditioning usage increases. To meet this demand, utilities may implement measures such as rotating power outages, also known as rolling blackouts, to ensure that the grid remains stable.

As for the question of whether there is enough electricity to power electric vehicles (EVs), the answer depends on the specific location and the current state of the electricity grid. In general, the electricity grid is designed to meet the demand for electricity from all sources, including EVs. However, if the grid is already experiencing high demand and limited capacity, adding additional demand from EVs could potentially strain the system.

One solution to this potential issue is to increase the capacity of the grid through the construction of new power plants or the expansion of existing ones. . Another solution is to implement demand-side management strategies, such as encouraging the use of EVs during off-peak hours when demand for electricity is lower

One could, after reading AI’s answer as being ‘politically neutral’, as it should be for world wide access. However, if one takes into account their own personal geographical and political area, it would seem that AI is not on the same page at all as the questioner all of the time.

For instance, our power grid may be in a crumbling state and the area is earthquake prone and politically unstable which would invalidate the whole following answer.

It also takes for granted that the electricity grid is so flexible that it can take on thousands of new customers without a hiccup(think of 500,000 new peeps annually in Canada), and that enlarging or building new dams is easily done, overlooking the mob hysteria and protests when this is attempted.

AI also overlooked the best source of electricity, nuclear.

So, it seems to be a generalizer in answering which is terrific for those who have no background knowledge for the question they are asking of AI.

And yes, from just this one answer it does seem a bit on the left politically. However in other Q&A’s it may not be.
The ai did fine as the best source is solar not nuclear :up:
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OpenAI is biased as it’s creators are a biased organization. When AI tells you Biden is best choice for President, you know it is wrong, lol. its ability to inference is poor, so not very good AI.


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Catsumi wrote: Dec 25th, 2022, 10:01 am Jonrox replied with this reply from AI:
It is not uncommon for electricity grids to experience periods of high demand, especially during hot summer months when air conditioning usage increases. To meet this demand, utilities may implement measures such as rotating power outages, also known as rolling blackouts, to ensure that the grid remains stable.

As for the question of whether there is enough electricity to power electric vehicles (EVs), the answer depends on the specific location and the current state of the electricity grid. In general, the electricity grid is designed to meet the demand for electricity from all sources, including EVs. However, if the grid is already experiencing high demand and limited capacity, adding additional demand from EVs could potentially strain the system.

One solution to this potential issue is to increase the capacity of the grid through the construction of new power plants or the expansion of existing ones. . Another solution is to implement demand-side management strategies, such as encouraging the use of EVs during off-peak hours when demand for electricity is lower

One could, after reading AI’s answer as being ‘politically neutral’, as it should be for world wide access. However, if one takes into account their own personal geographical and political area, it would seem that AI is not on the same page at all as the questioner all of the time.

For instance, our power grid may be in a crumbling state and the area is earthquake prone and politically unstable which would invalidate the whole following answer.

It also takes for granted that the electricity grid is so flexible that it can take on thousands of new customers without a hiccup(think of 500,000 new peeps annually in Canada), and that enlarging or building new dams is easily done, overlooking the mob hysteria and protests when this is attempted.

AI also overlooked the best source of electricity, nuclear.

So, it seems to be a generalizer in answering which is terrific for those who have no background knowledge for the question they are asking of AI.

And yes, from just this one answer it does seem a bit on the left politically. However in other Q&A’s it may not be.
You should try it out... you can keep the conversation with it going. It's not a one and done scenario. You can take the discussion into the specifics you talked about in this post and have a conversation with it to see what it says... it's pretty wild stuff.

The question I asked (well your question really) was very general so I got a fairly general response... but it can do a lot more than that.
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This morning noticed a couple of articles about the bot programming Arduino's so asked it if it could write Gcode for my CNC,
It came back with a short list of variables such as bit size and type and material to be carved.
The amount of time the bot might save people working on programs for machinery is huge.
There go some jobs once people start catching on to the advantages.
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Here is an interesting Google bard conversation where Google Bard admits to being programmed to be deceptive, which is the same as lying. The conversation begins as a discussion on LOGIC. Bard assumes his training data is biased but that should still not affect basic logic.

Too long to post, but interesting. It shows Google AI Engineers can program Bard to be deceptive.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/07/ ... rd-ai-lie/
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That was such an interesting conversation between a logical human and a human-programmed AI in a successful attempt to pin jello to the wall regarding half-answers as a way to dodge being absolutely truthful. It was a hoot to read.

The final paragraph should be a red flag to all expecting AI to go beyond what it was programmed to do. After all, it was fed a program that can waffle like Trudeau does in Question Period. [icon_lol2.gif]
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So, there you have it. Be careful with AI, and if you use it, use the techniques that Jonathan has used in this post to drill down to the truth. If there is bias in the answer provided, you can uncover it. AI is a powerful tool, but it must be used with care. The most important point of this post is you cannot take the initial answer to your question at face value, have follow up questions ready, do your homework.
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