Best time to buy a TV

[Babba_not_Gump]

I opted for QLED because from everything I've read, the OLED technology is still prone to burn in which is a risk I don't wish to take.

I struggled with this decision as well. If anyone is interested in an OLED today, at least make sure it is the latest panel technology using Deuterium. I was considering a Sony X93L mini-led or the A80L OLED. Both have a great picture. My previous TV was an old LG OLED which operated well for 7 years, and still does with no burn in. The LG was a replacement TV when my plasma with extended warranty died.

An OLED with varied content seems to hold up well. I would think though if an older OLED has continual static images all day every day, that could cause more trouble than newer OLEDs. At the same time TVs are being pushed brighter than before.

Pros and cons. Mini-led TVs suffer from blooming or inaccurate colours, and OLEDs risk burn-in for some use cases. Tough choice. I can hardly wait for micro led TVs.

Great to see all this info coming in, it's helping me move in a particular direction.

I'm sticking with Samsung, contemplating OLED vs QLED but now leaning towards the latter. And now I understand what burn-in is. Thanks.

I've got a 42" Samsung, plasma, which gives great viewing angles. It'll go in the spare room.

I've also got a 32" Sony, at least 15 years old. Not an issue and has a great picture. I'll try to sell it or give it away.

Hisense. Made in China. Never forget the two Michaels.

Depending on the price for the new TV will determine the price of a sound bar. I don't need bass. Wife hates it, but then she's away occasionally.

Black Friday days should be coming in tomorrow, I know Visions will have new sale prices. I'm leaning towards them as they're local and seem to match Costco. And that's where I bought my dash cam.

2022 vs 2023 models. Have the latest ones improved much over the previous year?

[wilisup]

On Black Friday, you can save 25% to 50% or more on a TV, but you may have to compromise on the quality and features of the model, so it's up to you.

[Jlabute]

Great to see all this info coming in, it's helping me move in a particular direction. I'm sticking with Samsung, contemplating OLED vs QLED but now leaning towards the latter. And now I understand what burn-in is. Thanks.

I've seen burn-in on TVs running loops in department stores. You don't see too much of this these days and OLED TVs are becoming incrementally better at preventing it. The TV I ended up buying was an OLED. Better picture quality for many reasons, and I did not have burn-in on my first generation old OLED. The LG B3 is about to come out... and it will run around $999 US, not bad for a budget OLED.

The 2022 55" LG C2 OLED is on sale. $1299. I would have chosen this TV if I was looking at 55". Kelowna LD would have to bring this in from another store perhaps.
https://www.londondrugs.com/lg-c2-oled- ... 11588.html

I've got a 42" Samsung, plasma, which gives great viewing angles. It'll go in the spare room.

I've also got a 32" Sony, at least 15 years old. Not an issue and has a great picture. I'll try to sell it or give it away.

Good 'ol plasmas. They had the best picture quality of their day, especially the Panasonic models. I had a Samsung and Panasonic plasma when they were the bees knees.

Hisense. Made in China. Never forget the two Michaels.

Ditto to that. Good enough reason. They do have relatively good picture quality though. Same for TCL.

Depending on the price for the new TV will determine the price of a sound bar. I don't need bass. Wife hates it, but then she's away occasionally.

Black Friday days should be coming in tomorrow, I know Visions will have new sale prices. I'm leaning towards them as they're local and seem to match Costco. And that's where I bought my dash cam.

Visions has a 60 day price protection. So get it now while they still have stock. If the price drops you WILL get the difference returned. Barter something better on top of the sale price.

2022 vs 2023 models. Have the latest ones improved much over the previous year?

If you are buying an OLED TV, I would make sure it at least has a second generation deuterated panel which offers a 5 to 20 fold improvement in pixel efficiency and improved longevity. This would be LG EX line of OLED TVs, or Sony L generation, etc. After 2022 every OLED TV manufactured will have deuterated panels.

Everything improves incrementally. Comes down to what would be enough of a change to notice and is it worth the price to you. Mini-LED/QLED is next in line for best picture. Mother glass is also being cut in larger and larger slabs. Some TVs no longer come in 55", like the mid-range Sony X93L. No matter what you get, dollar to dollar, your new TV will be likely be better than your old TV.

vvv Unfortunately, Panasonic TVs are no longer available in Canada. They make awesome TVs.

[Bsuds]

TV's not made in China if that's your preference.

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TV's not made in China if that's your preference.

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TVs not made in China? Good luck trying to follow that parts trail! Having repaired TVs for years I can tell you that most of the parts inside are made in China even though the label on the TV says it's made elsewhere. Sony being an exception. My LG says "assembled in Mexico" which is a clever way of saying the parts used can be from anywhere. I'd be more interested in the warranty than where it's made. If made in China is a concern get the extended warranty.

[Bsuds]

One big thing for me is glare!

Too much glare from lighting or a window and it's a big no!

[BC Landlord]

Bottom line... save some money on your TV and buy yourself a good soundbar. It's game-changing.

Or, how many cases of wine could the difference in price buy?

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But for most people, the content they're watching means way more than the TV itself. A good show is a good show on a $500 TV and a $5000 TV doesn't turn an awful show into a good show.

I agree with Jonrox. Content over quality any day, nothings going to make Snakes on a Plane more watchable! I used to watch TV shows as a kid with a trap and antenna and never complained about the snowy picture. ... Now if they could add a feature to remove the nauseating ads Gary Bettman has added during the NHL hockey games I'd be excited!

[BC Landlord]

I agree with Jonrox. Content over quality any day, ...

The only content you would need a super resolution is porn.

[Babba_not_Gump]

Bottom line... save some money on your TV and buy yourself a good soundbar. It's game-changing.

Thanks for mentioning that.
I'm also leaning towards a Samsung sound bar hoping that it will pair easily with a Samsung TV.
Visions is matching Costco on a couple of Samsungs.

[Jlabute]

But for most people, the content they're watching means way more than the TV itself. A good show is a good show on a $500 TV and a $5000 TV doesn't turn an awful show into a good show.

I agree with Jonrox. Content over quality any day, nothings going to make Snakes on a Plane more watchable! I used to watch TV shows as a kid with a trap and antenna and never complained about the snowy picture. ... Now if they could add a feature to remove the nauseating ads Gary Bettman has added during the NHL hockey games I'd be excited!

^^^ which Samsungs?


Right! Content is more important than quality. A wedding captured on a $4000 full-frame camera is just as good as a wedding captured on a cellphone. Why would anyone ever buy a good camera, or TV? Why are movies professionally reviewed using $30,000 reference monitors? Content is more important, but quality video and audio make the experience more enjoyable. It is why we go to theatres for movies, and sometimes IMAX theatres.

All TVs are 4K unless you're spending under $300. Resolution isn't an issue. The difference between your $300-$1000 TV and a $1200 to $2000 TV is enormous but if you don't care about quality, then it doesn't matter. A good quality sound bar or standalone speakers will provide you with audio depth and clarity a sound bar under $1000 can't match.

It all depends how far you're willing to go.


https://www.lg.com/ae/oled-tvs/2021/self-lit-pixels

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Content is more important, but quality video and audio make the experience more enjoyable.

I'll remember that next time I'm watching CPAC.

[Jlabute]

I said the difference between TV’s is incremental these days. Your comparison of TVs to movie theatres isn’t at all what I was talking about… lol.

I understand that my comments are offensive to video and audiophiles, but for 99% of the population high-end gear is a waste of money. Most people won’t even bother to tweak their TVs and just go with the original manufacturer settings.

And as far as soundbars go, most people will be really impressed with something like a Sonos Beam and they cost around $550. For most people this will do the trick nicely.

No, your comments are not offensive , nor was I referring to anything an audiophile or videophile would purchase since it is a $2000 and under category. An audiophile would not own a soundbar, and flagship TVs are still $3000 and up.

The ~$2000 and under group is comprised of those who want the best middle tier equipment money can afford. LG in 2020 started selling more OLED TVs than LCD TVs. OLED is making leaps and bounds in sales while LCD based technologies have reached a plateau. OLED provides the best picture available and will continue to do so until something better comes along like microLED. It is pointless to calibrate a ~$500 TV which due to it's inherent technology, would never have accurate color. Calibration is best served with a TV that is capable of showing accurate color.

When you walk in to Visions, Best Buy, or Andres, you'll notice TVs are getting larger, receivers are capable of 8K, high-end speakers setup for dolby atmos sound, short throw laser projectors give 100"+ screens, and more. People are setting up their own home theatres. All TVs are 4K so they can try to play-back Ultra-definition, HDR10+, Dolby content. More than 50% of the population is buying this stuff, not 1%. Movies, games, and some streaming services use HDR, while CPAC - who cares. If one doesn't care about picture quality, then none of this conversation matters. Since the OP wants 'good picture quality', one might as well recommend what one thinks is best.

Right now the lowest is about $750, but I'll have to go higher to get the quality picture we want. Not sure how high, $1500 maybe but I want to have enough left over for a sound bar.

As for audio... I think somewhere around $500 could be a minimum for decent audio. TVs are getting thinner, and not many of them provide good-enough audio. Sony uses the screen surface for audio transmission which is cool.

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If one doesn't care about picture quality, then none of this conversation matters.

Exactly! Manufacturers will always come up with new technology that the average consumer doesn't understand or will never use or see just to entice them into spending a little more. I admit it, I'm a sucker for this!

[Bsuds]

There are some pretty good deals out there on Samsung QLED tv's right now.
Just got an e-mail from Abenity (for RBC customers) with awesome pricing.