EV Battery Fires Not Really A Thing

[LovemyBolt]

Perhaps the "naysayers" were listened too and the blankets were issued
Also if you watch the vid... the protocol and manpower for that EV fire in the vid is more extensive than with an ICEV... as shown in the vid.

... and the recently published vid provides the incident date... "At 7:40 a.m. on Wednesday, January 10, 2024, residents inside a home on S. Mobile St. in Centennial heard their smoke alarms activate and found their house"
... this indicates to me that EV Battery Fires are really a thing.... just sayin.

I would more suspect the fire departments were looking for faster and less water solutions.
And again, how many ICEV fires are happening everyday that the news can't be bothered to report on yet here we are again with ONE new EV fire and the naysayers think the sky is falling.

[hozzle]

Perhaps the "naysayers" were listened too and the blankets were issued
Also if you watch the vid... the protocol and manpower for that EV fire in the vid is more extensive than with an ICEV... as shown in the vid.

... and the recently published vid provides the incident date... "At 7:40 a.m. on Wednesday, January 10, 2024, residents inside a home on S. Mobile St. in Centennial heard their smoke alarms activate and found their house"
... this indicates to me that EV Battery Fires are really a thing.... just sayin.

I would more suspect the fire departments were looking for faster and less water solutions.
And again, how many ICEV fires are happening everyday that the news can't be bothered to report on yet here we are again with ONE new EV fire and the naysayers think the sky is falling.

I see your point, but I am just going off of what the fireman stated in the video...(5:23 mark)

Was it really naysayers or was it necessity as stated in the vid? Feelings aside... let's go with facts, imo.

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[LovemyBolt]

I see your point, but I am just going off of what the fireman stated in the video...(5:23 mark)

Was it really naysayers or was it necessity as stated in the vid? Feelings aside... let's go with facts, imo.
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I think we're agreeing. It's evolving responses to these different kinds of fires. Other departments pouring lots of water on doesn't seem to do it. So good for this one for trying out this method. Still rare though. I couldn't agree more with going with facts. Lots of hyperbolic speculation goes on otherwise.

[nepal]

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This didn’t really happen.

[polelady]

well from the pics it looks real .. was it AI doing again..lol

[LovemyBolt]

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This didn’t really happen.

Sigh. If you're going to post social media crap, please find corroborating verification of what you saw in the cesspool. Yup, apparently some ethical mining nuts (maybe these are the peeps of the naysayers :) ) committed arson and lit up some cars. The cars did not ignite on their own.

[Jlabute]

As far as micro-mobility goes. New York has a record number of fires and fire related deaths due to e-Bikes. They certainly do not tackle climate change or pollution as per original plan. Sounds like an utter failure to me.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/e-bike ... -york-city

[spooker]

As far as micro-mobility goes. New York has a record number of fires and fire related deaths due to e-Bikes. They certainly do not tackle climate change or pollution as per original plan. Sounds like an utter failure to me.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/e-bike ... -york-city

E-bikes do not tackle climate change? or pollution? That seems like strange statements to make ... they've been shown to replace a lot trips that would be taken by car otherwise ...

[Jlabute]

As far as micro-mobility goes. New York has a record number of fires and fire related deaths due to e-Bikes. They certainly do not tackle climate change or pollution as per original plan. Sounds like an utter failure to me.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/e-bike ... -york-city

E-bikes do not tackle climate change? or pollution? That seems like strange statements to make ... they've been shown to replace a lot trips that would be taken by car otherwise ...

Especially if they are all blowing up, burning down apartment blocks, killing people. Doesn't seem like a good way to tackle an imaginary problem. The damage they cause outweighs any benefit at this time.

[LovemyBolt]

As far as micro-mobility goes. New York has a record number of fires and fire related deaths due to e-Bikes. They certainly do not tackle climate change or pollution as per original plan. Sounds like an utter failure to me.

E-bikes do not tackle climate change? or pollution? That seems like strange statements to make ... they've been shown to replace a lot trips that would be taken by car otherwise ...

I think he was directing towards the fires and the pollution therefrom caused by the unregulated importation of cheap foreign made crap that seems to like to ignite. I agree that the results from that could easily outweigh the good. There are options other than cheap crap and that not all battery powered things ignite but of course they cost more and not-rich people don't like to spend so much and so we see the proliferation of the cheap foreign crap.
And of course the required naysaying and denial of what's staring us all in the face.

[The Green Barbarian]

As far as micro-mobility goes. New York has a record number of fires and fire related deaths due to e-Bikes. They certainly do not tackle climate change or pollution as per original plan. Sounds like an utter failure to me.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/e-bike ... -york-city

E-bikes do not tackle climate change? or pollution? That seems like strange statements to make ... they've been shown to replace a lot trips that would be taken by car otherwise ...

So what pollution results from driving a car exactly? Smog used to be an issue but those effects have long been mitigated. And of course, the man-made climate change argument is complete rubbish.

E-bikes are cool, but the fires they keep causing are not cool.

[spooker]

E-bikes do not tackle climate change? or pollution? That seems like strange statements to make ... they've been shown to replace a lot trips that would be taken by car otherwise ...

Especially if they are all blowing up, burning down apartment blocks, killing people. Doesn't seem like a good way to tackle an imaginary problem. The damage they cause outweighs any benefit at this time.

Similar to how the EV fires were expressed as a #/100k, is there a number that has been derived for e-bikes and scooters? Thanks to the reach of the media these days I always question perception of the problem because we keep ...

Deaths for e-bike sparked fires increased 200% but that is also meaning 18 deaths ... and what is the number of e-bikes being ridden in NYC these days and how does that relate to these increases?

Yes, cheap e-bikes are at higher risk for battery fires ... and the Times ran an article back in 2021 about how e-bikes were outselling EVs ... reading headlines in a vacuum doesn't tell us enough to form a solid opinion

[nepal]

E-bikes do not tackle climate change? or pollution? That seems like strange statements to make ... they've been shown to replace a lot trips that would be taken by car otherwise ...

I think he was directing towards the fires and the pollution therefrom caused by the unregulated importation of cheap foreign made crap that seems to like to ignite. I agree that the results from that could easily outweigh the good. There are options other than cheap crap and that not all battery powered things ignite but of course they cost more and not-rich people don't like to spend so much and so we see the proliferation of the cheap foreign crap.
And of course the required naysaying and denial of what's staring us all in the face.

I don’t disagree with your comment, because I don’t know, but can you please provide the statistics that show “cheap foreign crap” are causing EV fires. Is there 4-year statistical evidence showing how cheap foreign-made batteries compare to domestic-made batteries, and the fires they cause? Or are these accusations just conjecture? Are there some particularly bad brands that we need to know about?

Also, what is the 4-year numerical comparison of quantity of foreign-made batteries, compared to domestic-made batteries? Maybe a breakdown of production numbers by country would help to provide a clear comparison. For example how many are manufactured in Canada, and are these more safe, than say Korean-manufactured batteries?
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If you have quality evidence of your claims, then you’ll get much better acceptance of your statements.
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[LovemyBolt]

I don’t disagree with your comment, because I don’t know, but can you please provide the statistics that show “cheap foreign crap” are causing EV fires. Is there 4-year statistical evidence showing how cheap foreign-made batteries compare to domestic-made batteries, and the fires they cause? Or are these accusations just conjecture? Are there some particularly bad brands that we need to know about?

Also, what is the 4-year numerical comparison of quantity of foreign-made batteries, compared to domestic-made batteries? Maybe a breakdown of production numbers by country would help to provide a clear comparison. For example how many are manufactured in Canada, and are these more safe, than say Korean-manufactured batteries?
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If you have quality evidence of your claims, then you’ll get much better acceptance of your statements.
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I have no stats or studies or factual information on hand. Just like everybody else around here throwing out opinions. I have a bias and skepticism about cheaply made products using cheap materials flooding our marketplace. You can guess what source I mean.

[nepal]

Ebike batteries concern me, as apparently their fires are explosive, thus difficult to escape from, compared to slower starting fires. I think storing Ebikes (at least their batteries) in a shelter, away from a house, might be wise. Same likely for all such batteries.
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Hopefully fire departments are collating data, as to which brands are most likely to burn, and let the public know so we can avoid those brands.
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https://globalnews.ca/video/9724741/e-b ... ouver-fire
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