Furnace vs cold weather

[Bigbacardi]

59MN7. Modulating carrier furnace
Basic stat - 5 stages of heat
Infinity star - 60 stages of heat
Infinity stat has on board diagnostics
Infinity stat has on board history
Basic stat doesn’t.
The modulating heat pump will not work at all without the infinity stat
For starters…..

[BC Landlord]

59MN7. Modulating carrier furnace
Basic stat - 5 stages of heat
Infinity star - 60 stages of heat

Carrier 97% high efficient two stage 80,000 BTU furnace ...

That's a state of the art furnace ($$$$). However the OP's furnace is a two-stage one. Let's focus on that.
So, why would you suggest using a 60 stages thermostat with a 2-stage furnace, when even a basic 5 stages thermostat would be an overkill? What's the rationale here?

Infinity stat has on board diagnostics
Infinity stat has on board history
Basic stat doesn’t.

As I demonstrated to you earlier, what I could get out of a few years old Honeywell T5 thermostat (can't be more basic than that) is far beyond what that "Infinity" thermostat could possibly produce on its own. Bear in mind, that's a PC based software which I wrote myself, and for fun, not out of some necessity. But you don't need that. The add-on device (~ $150) that feeds the data into it also comes with a phone app with pretty much the same stats. So, for a $100 for thermostat, plus $150 for a monitoring device it's still far cry from a $380 thermostat with inferior analytics. Again, not too many people are actually interested in seeing that.

The modulating heat pump will not work at all without the infinity stat
For starters…..

If you want to talk heat pumps, I believe there is already a thread for that. Again, this is about OP's gas furnace. Could you please stick to that?

[Bigbacardi]

Carrier does not make a 2 stage gas furnace at 97%afue.
That would be the 59TN6 that is 2 stage & 96%
Again, some people are not penny pincher & enjoy the expensive things in life
How come you are not designing thermostats for big HVAC?
Not everybody has the capability to designed their own software. (Nice brag btw)
Does your system measure static pressure?
Or tell you when it's got fault codes?
Or give you data on the rpm of the ecm?

I'm done now as you obviously are just looking to bicker.
Have a nice day, & enjoy the rest

[BC Landlord]

Carrier does not make a 2 stage gas furnace at 97%afue.
That would be the 59TN6 that is 2 stage & 96%

Whatever. Are you still suggesting that the "Infinity" thermostat is an adequate choice for this application? If so, you are badly misleading the OP and the audience here.

Again, some people are not penny pincher & enjoy the expensive things in life

Fair enough, but to most of us mortals, cost vs outcome matters. Nice sales pitch, though

How come you are not designing thermostats for big HVAC?
Not everybody has the capability to designed their own software. (Nice brag btw)

I'm a retired guy. Too late for me to pursue that career. I've designed many things in my life, and I'm still very tech savvy, so I can make my own software, even for fun. That's not "bragging".

Does your system measure static pressure?
Or tell you when it's got fault codes?
Or give you data on the rpm of the ecm?

That's none of user's interest whatsoever. That's something for service technicians to look into. Why would you put something like that on a user interface? If that's the case with that termostat, then it's a colossal gimmick, which someone is trying to sell at a premium. Not very nice!

I'm done now as you obviously are just looking to bicker.
Have a nice day, & enjoy the rest

You are the one who came here on a high horse with "I'm the expert" to discuss technical matter. Calling you up on that is not "bickering".

[Bigbacardi]

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It shows lifetime hrs& cycles, & many other things.
You can use that info to estimate how much fuel you have used, you can also interpolate if the furnace is the correct size for house. You would be surprised to find out how many furnaces are too big for the application. Which contributes to short cycling & premature repairs. It also measures static pressure which is key to proper operation, efficiency, high static will also cause premature blower motor failure, & poor heating & cooling.
This thermostat is very common on this equipment.
Some people may not understand the amount of info available, or what it can do, but that's ok.
& if one is satisfied with their own Honeywell T5, fill your boots.

[marvin gardens]

Lots of good technical info on gas furnaces.
Now what can us poor slobs that have to heat with baseboard (electric) in apartment do?
Terrible heating.
New heaters, new thermostat?
Fortis loves them. They charge $35 dollars to deliver the electricity on top of what is consumed.
There are water filled baseboards, but are they any better?

[Bigbacardi]

Water filled baseboards are not necessarily better, but different.
They use hot water to radiate the heat, where as electric baseboards use resistance heat.
Water may cost less as there is usually a gas boiler attached.
But trying to retro fit water from electric is usually very costly.
If you have elec baseboard heat in an apartment, then you realistically have no options but what is existing.
Ductless split heat pumps are a reasonable choice, however most stratas won't allow them due to the outside appearance of building issues. (& lack of power avail)