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rustled wrote:Still no PPC candidate in our riding. But there is someone running for the Rhino party. :biggrin:


You lucky :cuss: :biggrin:
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rustled wrote:Still no PPC candidate in our riding. But there is someone running for the Rhino party. :biggrin:

Now THERE'S a Party I can get behind. LOL
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Merry wrote:
rustled wrote:Still no PPC candidate in our riding. But there is someone running for the Rhino party. :biggrin:

Now THERE'S a Party I can get behind. LOL


I thought the Rhino Party was deregistered.
Rustled ...If your riding is South Okanagan there is a candidate. It's going to take a few more days for the PPC website to get updated, and a few more days for the candidates paperwork to go through.
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Merry wrote:
rustled wrote:Still no PPC candidate in our riding. But there is someone running for the Rhino party. :biggrin:

Now THERE'S a Party I can get behind. LOL

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out whether I prefer their platform, or the PPC's. Here's theirs, with my thoughts and questions for those who think I should vote PPC:
If elected, the Rhinoceros Party of Canada has promised to:
  • Take Canada off the gold standard, opting instead to use a snow standard to boost the economy [interesting, especially for those of us questioning climate alarmism. Where would Bernier stand on this?]
  • Repeal the law of gravity [mixed feelings, but where would Bernier stand on this?]
  • Promote higher education by building taller schools [ditto]
  • Pave the Bay of Fundy to make more parking for the Maritimes [ditto]
  • Count the Thousand Islands to make sure the Americans didn’t steal any [bashing Americans :-X . If Bernier disagrees, point PPC]
  • Change Montreal’s rue Ste-Catherine into the world’s longest bowling alley [can't see the harm. Neutral]
  • Ban crappy Canadian winters [We're making progress here, with Canada warming at twice the global rate! If the Liberals borrowed this from the Rhinos, they could claim they're delivering on another promise!]
  • Abolish all laws to end crime [just as logical as anything else a politician has promised. Point Rhino]
  • Tear down the Rockies so Albertans can see the Pacific sunset [Trudeau: Who? Does Bernier know what/where Alberta is?]
  • Abolish lawn mowing in Outremont, Que [ :swear: making it nice and quiet for Quebec! Always Quebec! What about the West? Point to PPC.]
  • Ban guns and butter—both kill [refuse to give up butter, and Bernier isn't suggesting we ban it. Another point goes to PPC.]
  • Reform the retail lottery scheme by replacing cash prizes with Senate appointments [interesting and efficient. Point, Rhino.]
  • Forget having two official languages; replace with having two official ears (In French, the same word is used for "language" and for "tongue") [Bernier probably won't go along with this, but it again it makes as much sense as most political promises. Point to Rhino party.]
  • Seat the Queen of Canada in Buckingham, Quebec [good for tourism, so keep it in Quebec. Point to Rhino.]
  • Privatize the Queen [Point to Rhino]
  • Tax the black market [Point to Rhino]
  • Nationalize Tim Hortons [you mean it isn't?]
  • Move the national capital to Kapuskasing, Ontario [Disagree. It should be here, on that little island in Vaseaux Lake, to prevent government from growing too big. Where does Bernier stand on this?]
So far, it's a wash.

oldtrucker, we await your news...
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rustled wrote:oldtrucker, we await your news...






Not my news...
I'm not a member of the party. I can't be.
Just check the website in a few days.
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Merry wrote:Max should not have made his attacks against Greta personal; it's one thing to criticize someone's views, but quite another to publicly criticize the person.

But that said, I don't really agree with adults using children to help push their political message. It happens all the time, but it shouldn't. That young lady ought to be hanging out with her friends, and/or getting ready to go back to school, instead of being used by folks to further their own personal agenda.

If it's true that she has emotional problems, then all the more reason not to use her the way certain groups are currently using her. It's not just Max who is abusing this young lady. Lots of people are.


Merry, I agree with you about Max and when it comes to Max using children . . .. But I think you already know how we have differing opinions when it comes to her parents (as far as I remember anyway--I'll check--nope, not that I can find, so far).

And as for school, Greta decided to take a gap year, and it seems that this is what having friends means to her--and there's plenty of evidence of her socialising like a sixteen-year-old too.


Poindexter wrote:Thanks Scorp, from your link. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 87306.html

When haters go after your looks and differences, it means they have nowhere left to go. And then you know you’re winning!

I have Asperger’s syndrome and that means I’m sometimes a bit different from the norm. And - given the right circumstances - being different is a superpower.

I'm not public about my diagnosis to "hide" behind it, but because I know many ignorant people still see it as an "illness", or something negative. And believe me, my diagnosis has limited me before. Before I started school striking I had no energy, no friends and I didn’t speak to anyone. I just sat alone at home, with an eating disorder.

All of that is gone now, since I have found a meaning, in a world that sometimes seems meaningless to so many people.


Scorp wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV18bF_tL3U

3:07:24 -- “We love you Greta!”

(So) you nailed it, Poindexter! :up:


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And I think it would have been better for the party if Max had stuck to this part of the script.

A People’s Party government will: • Withdraw from the Paris Accord and abandon unrealistic greenhouse gas emission reduction targets. • Stop sending billions of dollars to developing countries to help them reduce their emissions. • Abolish the Liberal government’s carbon tax and leave it to provincial governments to adopt programs to reduce emissions if they want to. • Abolish subsidies for green technology and let private players develop profitable and efficient alternatives. • Invest in mitigation strategies if problems arise as a result of any natural climate change. • Prioritize implementing practical solutions to make Canada’s air, water and soil cleaner, including bringing clean drinking water to remote First Nations communities.
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:up: Progress, but rehab's a *bleep*, eh?

"Bernier walks back 'mentally unstable' attack on Greta Thunberg - then calls activist a 'pawn'"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bernier ... -1.5270902

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Oh, and to the CBC--bit tardy to school aren't you? What's the matter? Don't like this particular class?
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I'd like to see if Greta responds to his 'walkback' or to anything else that he's tweeted, specifically to him--it's pretty much assured that the CBC won't ask her for a comment.

But I will venture that now, through the CBC's interpretation, it kinda fits in with his management plan here:

Climate change alarmism is based on flawed models that have consistently failed at correctly predicting the future. None of the cataclysmic predictions that have been made about the climate since the 1970s have come true. No new ice age. No steady warming in direct relation with increases in CO2 levels. No disappearance of polar ice caps. No exceptional rise in ocean levels. No abnormal increase in catastrophic weather events. No widespread crop failure and famine.

In fact, CO2 is beneficial for agriculture and there has recently been a measurable “greening” of the world in part thanks to higher levels. Despite what global warming propaganda claims, CO2 is not a pollutant. It is an essential ingredient for life on Earth and needed for plant growth.

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Although that doesn't mention anything about 'pawns.'
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rustled wrote:
If elected, the Rhinoceros Party of Canada has promised to:
  • Take Canada off the gold standard, opting instead to use a snow standard to boost the economy [interesting, especially for those of us questioning climate alarmism. Where would Bernier stand on this?]
  • Repeal the law of gravity [mixed feelings, but where would Bernier stand on this?]
  • Promote higher education by building taller schools [ditto]
  • Pave the Bay of Fundy to make more parking for the Maritimes [ditto]
  • Count the Thousand Islands to make sure the Americans didn’t steal any [bashing Americans :-X . If Bernier disagrees, point PPC]
  • Change Montreal’s rue Ste-Catherine into the world’s longest bowling alley [can't see the harm. Neutral]
  • Ban crappy Canadian winters [We're making progress here, with Canada warming at twice the global rate! If the Liberals borrowed this from the Rhinos, they could claim they're delivering on another promise!]
  • Abolish all laws to end crime [just as logical as anything else a politician has promised. Point Rhino]
  • Tear down the Rockies so Albertans can see the Pacific sunset [Trudeau: Who? Does Bernier know what/where Alberta is?]
  • Abolish lawn mowing in Outremont, Que [ :swear: making it nice and quiet for Quebec! Always Quebec! What about the West? Point to PPC.]
  • Ban guns and butter—both kill [refuse to give up butter, and Bernier isn't suggesting we ban it. Another point goes to PPC.]
  • Reform the retail lottery scheme by replacing cash prizes with Senate appointments [interesting and efficient. Point, Rhino.]
  • Forget having two official languages; replace with having two official ears (In French, the same word is used for "language" and for "tongue") [Bernier probably won't go along with this, but it again it makes as much sense as most political promises. Point to Rhino party.]
  • Seat the Queen of Canada in Buckingham, Quebec [good for tourism, so keep it in Quebec. Point to Rhino.]
  • Privatize the Queen [Point to Rhino]
  • Tax the black market [Point to Rhino]
  • Nationalize Tim Hortons [you mean it isn't?]
  • Move the national capital to Kapuskasing, Ontario [Disagree. It should be here, on that little island in Vaseaux Lake, to prevent government from growing too big. Where does Bernier stand on this?]

Well, now that I've had a chance to study the Rhino platform, I figure they'll win hands down if they field enough candidates!!!!!!
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Maxime Bernier
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http://twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status ... 3228040193

1/5 I received a lot of criticism for a tweet where I was mentioning the mental health problems that Greta Thunberg herself and her mother publicly discussed.

My goal was absolutely not to denigrate her or whoever deals with these conditions.

1:21 PM - 4 Sep 2019

2/ On the contrary, she is a brave young woman who has been able to overcome her problems and deserves our admiration for that.

I wanted to show that the choice of influential groups and the media to make her a spokesperson for climate alarmism is not innocent.

3 / These groups use this young woman as a pawn and as a shield to prevent any criticism of the message. That's the real scandal.

I should have expressed this argument without referring directly to her personal situation.

4 / Greta's call to “panic” and to radically transform society without further debate, because we have no time to avoid a catastrophe, is particularly dangerous, especially for young people here and everywhere that she influences.

5 / I will continue to criticize and oppose this alarmist vision and the disastrous policies that come with it, whether they come from Greta, Trudeau, McKenna, May, or whoever. And to offer a realistic vision based on confidence in the future.


The vison:

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I hope Max and his followers have learned an elementary lesson in critical reasoning--in the name of progress, rather than attack the person, challenge the argument with facts to disprove it or to improve it.

Book recommendation: Critical Reasoning by Jerry Cederblom and David Paulsen.
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Gilchy wrote:Sentimental claptrap. I have family who did just that. Doesn’t make me a better Canadian, or my culture any more “correct”, than someone who moved here from elsewhere 2 years ago. Frequently new immigrants are more excited about Canada than old stock.


Sentimental claptrap...
I'm going to guess you didn't toil on that land and that you are a city person that had family long ago that did that, and you have no deep connection to your history.
Just a guess... You didn't clear that land by hand and pick rocks and roots for months. You didn't have to get on a horse bareback at 3am in the rain to go get the stock that got out because a tree took out the fence in a storm. You didn't help your family fence and cross fence 30 kilometers of the land. You didn't get injured multiple times or watch family members who died putting their life's energy into that land. You didn't stand there and look at the 100 plus years of work your great grandfather, grandfather, father, ...and you, put into it.
Ya...My family is a immigrant family as well.
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Scorp wrote: (earlier)

Oh, and to the CBC--bit tardy to school aren't you? What's the matter? Don't like this particular class?

Just like Max, I have to eat my words.

CBC Kids News

“Why this Canadian politician threw shade on Greta Thunberg”

http://www.cbc.ca/kidsnews/post/this-ca ... a-thunberg

The article asks for feedback:

“Do you like this story?”
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oldtrucker wrote:
Gilchy wrote:Sentimental claptrap. I have family who did just that. Doesn’t make me a better Canadian, or my culture any more “correct”, than someone who moved here from elsewhere 2 years ago. Frequently new immigrants are more excited about Canada than old stock.


Sentimental claptrap...
I'm going to guess you didn't toil on that land and that you are a city person that had family long ago that did that, and you have no deep connection to your history.
Just a guess... You didn't clear that land by hand and pick rocks and roots for months. You didn't have to get on a horse bareback at 3am in the rain to go get the stock that got out because a tree took out the fence in a storm. You didn't help your family fence and cross fence 30 kilometers of the land. You didn't get injured multiple times or watch family members who died putting their life's energy into that land. You didn't stand there and look at the 100 plus years of work your great grandfather, grandfather, father, ...and you, put into it.
Ya...My family is a immigrant family as well.


You're not disproving my point though, nor do you know anything about me or my family's history. "Blood and soil" doesn't make it more right than anyone or any other culture. No one is saying that homesteaders didn't work insanely hard in crazy conditions. They worked through hardship to improve the lives and themselves and their families. That's all most people want, including immigrants. The fact that someone's family happened to cross the Atlantic 100 years earlier doesn't give them gatekeeping on what it is to be Canadian.
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Gilchy wrote: nor do you know anything about me or my family's history.

No, that's why I said "I'm going to guess"...was I right?

Gilchy wrote: The fact that someone's family happened to cross the Atlantic 100 years earlier doesn't give them gatekeeping on what it is to be Canadian.







It doesn't? At all?
Okay.
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