Scheer: US citizen and liar

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JLives wrote:
rustled wrote:If we're going to consider all of these lies, it's an interesting exercise to run a little compare and contrast with other parties' campaign rhetoric. I wonder if you're up for it?

It's getting funnier and funnier to watch people cling to the belief anyone can (really, absolutely!)trust Trudeau to be fully honest and completely transparent when he claims Scheer and the Conservatives are not telling the truth about how Liberals might pay for their campaign promises.


Why is it interesting to do that? There is a list of his lies. We can't just accept that he indeed lied about these things?

I suppose it's only interesting to those of us who don't rely on others to do our thinking for us, particularly our critical thinking. K_teela's list doesn't seem unbiased to me. Perhaps it does to you, and that's fine.

We can, of course, accept the K_teela's assertion that Scheer indeed lied about these things and is therefore by intended innuendo a liar. We can also, if we wish, consider the context and do a little critical thinking and perhaps come to different conclusions.

Those of us who are up for it. For example, those of us who understand the difference between a clear and direct promise not to raise the GST, and a bunch of mealy-mouthed political smarm intended to misdirect those gullible enough to buy in.
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Remember when Scheer lied that the UK may be sending child murderer Jon Venables to Canada?

The lie was cosidered so egregious, the UK Justice Ministry had to issue a statement to the Canadian press that Scheer's lie was categorically untrue.

What sort of person lies like this?

What sort of party leader is so stupid that he thinks another country can just send one of their citizens here?

That's not a leader; that's someone who ain't right in the head.
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Here. Since you seem to be asking a lot of "Who? Where? When?" I figured I'll give you some links to help answer your questions.



Conservatives lied about the RCMP investigating Justin Trudeau

The Green Barbarian wrote:Because Justin blocked the investigation? What??

https://globalnews.ca/news/5915114/reality-check-rcmp-did-not-confirm-snc-lavalin-scandal-investigation/

Conservatives lied about the efficiency of carbon taxes

The Green Barbarian wrote:Because the Liberals, when pressed, couldn't and wouldn't provide a cost/benefit analysis? Seriously, are carbon taxes "efficient"? What proof do you have to back up this mass suffering of poor people? Why would anyone support something so stupid?

A cost/benefit was already done. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tasker ... -1.5077445


Andrew Scheer lied about the UK sending a pedophile child murderer* to Canada


The Green Barbarian wrote:A what? What is a pedophile child murdered? What?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/british-government-denies-reports-that-a-child-murderer-will-be-sent-to-canada-1.4575596?cache=yes%3FclipId%3D104069%3FclipId%3D263414%3Fot%3DAjaxLayout%3FclipId%3D89531%3FautoPlay%3Dtrue

Also a link directly to Scheers tweet https://twitter.com/AndrewScheer/status/1168309584190222336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1168309584190222336&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ctvnews.ca%2Fcanada%2Fbritish-government-denies-reports-that-a-child-murderer-will-be-sent-to-canada-1.4575596%3Fcache%3Dyes%253FclipId%253D104069%253FclipId%253D263414%253Fot%253DAjaxLayout%253FclipId%253D89531%253FautoPlay%253Dtrue


Conservatives lied about the Liberals imposing new tax on home purchases

The Green Barbarian wrote:What did they say exactly? Did they warn people that the Liberals were thinking of doing it? Are you sure that they are not?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/the-conservatives-misleading-claims-about-a-secret-liberal-housing-tax-1.5312873

Also a tweet from Trudeau. https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1181277122222014464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1181277122222014464&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbc.ca%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fthe-conservatives-misleading-claims-about-a-secret-liberal-housing-tax-1.5312873

Conservatives posted fake photo to make it look like Justin Trudeau was meeting with extreme right and racist activist Faith Goldy

The Green Barbarian wrote:Faith Goldy is an "extreme right and racist" activist? What? Where is this fake photo? And so what if they did meet up? Who cares??

https://www.thewalrus-factchecking.com/post/fact-check-did-justin-trudeau-share-a-platform-with-faith-goldy

Conservatives posted photo deliberately mis-quoting Rick Mercer

The Green Barbarian wrote:OK, someone did. Was it the Conservatives?

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/rick-mercer-lashes-out-at-burnaby-conservatives-for-posting-fake-endorsement


Andrew Scheer lied about being an insurance broker

The Green Barbarian wrote:No, he didn't.

https://www.narcity.com/news/ca/andrew-scheers-insurance-broker-claims-are-being-turned-against-him-on-twitter

Andrew Scheer lied about how Canada’s Foreign aid is spent


The Green Barbarian wrote:Where? When? How is it "spent" exactly? I am curious.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-foreign-aid-fact-check-1.5305045

Andrew Scheer lied about the Federal Government taxing 94% of all new income made

The Green Barbarian wrote:What? Where? When? This sounds more and more like a laundry list of BS lies generated by some Left website. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated crapola.

How about a tweet right from Scheer? That good enough for you?https://twitter.com/AndrewScheer/status/1009859998002839552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1009859998002839552&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macleans.ca%2Fpolitics%2Fottawa%2Ffact-checking-conservative-twitter%2F

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-foreign-aid-fact-check-1.5305045

Andrew Scheer lied about immigrants jumping the queue

The Green Barbarian wrote:What? Where? When? Are immigrants coming into Canada illegally not "jumping the queue" to get in? Who even dreamed up this one? Sounds pretty stupid.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5899144/reality-check-scheer-immigration-refugee-queue-jumping/

Conservatives lied about Trudeau is spending $90,000 to upgrade “his summer home”

The Green Barbarian wrote:Where? When? What summer home?

Tweet right from the CPC_HQ https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1011718487172001792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1011718487172001792&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macleans.ca%2Fpolitics%2Fottawa%2Ffact-checking-conservative-twitter%2F

Conservatives falsely represented tax loop-holes for rich citizens as support for small businesses

The Green Barbarian wrote:This one just sounds like nonsense made up by brain-dead communists, who have no clue what "loop-holes" are.

https://twitter.com/kevinmilligan/status/1176533181748506630

Andrew Scheer lied about Liberal’s wanting to increase GST

The Green Barbarian wrote:What he said was that if the Liberals wanted to keep spending like the drunken sailors they are, they'd have to "look at" raising the GST. A reasonable statement. Not a lie. Yet it was seized on by meat-heads and spun, including that reporter who totally came at Scheer with no warning on election day, and started babbling about his children. Totally classless and stupid.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-trudeau-gst-coalition-cuts-1.5325960

Andrew Scheer lied about Liberals wanting to decriminalize hard drugs, despite Trudeau’s denial

The Green Barbarian wrote:What was actually said? Where? When? I heard nothing about this, anywhere.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-trudeau-decriminalization-drugs-1.5324106

rustled wrote:If we're going to consider all of these lies, it's an interesting exercise to run a little compare and contrast with other parties' campaign rhetoric. I wonder if you're up for it?

It's getting funnier and funnier to watch people cling to the belief anyone can (really, absolutely!)trust Trudeau to be fully honest and completely transparent when he claims Scheer and the Conservatives are not telling the truth about how Liberals might pay for their campaign promises.


My response was to someone who said 'Scheer' didnt lie. I'm simply pointing out some examples. If you to pretend it didnt happen and throw around some 'what about the other guys' go for it. Why don't you provide some blatant lies and misinformation that came from the other parties during the campaign then.

You wonder if it's a lie or not because Scheer doesn't understand how the Liberals might pay for their campaign promises? Scheer didn't even know how he was going to pay for HIS OWN campaign promises.

The fact that Scheer couldnt win a landslide against Trudeau amidst blackface/SNC and whatnot all months before the election is something very special.
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It's called LYING.


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K_teela wrote: You wonder if it's a lie or not because Scheer doesn't understand how the Liberals might pay for their campaign promises? Scheer didn't even know how he was going to pay for HIS OWN campaign promises.

Canada sure dodged a bullet to the head this last election. I would certainly hope the Cons would do a real review of what is going wrong with their party and platform to make themselves at least a bit more palatable to the electorate at large (as opposed to only their base), but that's what I hoped after their last election loss and they picked Scheer as their candidate.
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Ka-El wrote:Canada sure dodged a bullet to the head this last election. I would certainly hope the Cons would do a real review of what is going wrong with their party and platform to make themselves at least a bit more palatable to the electorate at large (as opposed to only their base), but that's what I hoped after their last election loss and they picked Scheer as their candidate.


Scheer will face an automatic leadership review in 2020 (this is something the CPC does either way). I have no doubt that he'll gone once that happens. They had far better candidates for the job, Scheer was a joke who is too obsessed over Trudeau to really stand for anything himself. (He even made his concession speech all about Trudeau, and his announcement of attempting to stay on as CPC leader about Trudeau...the guy can't live without him).
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Because in his mind, Scheer is going to need Trudeau to have someone to continue to blame for his shortcomings and lack of performance. He blew it, and he thinks he's still going to be in there leading the party. The Cons need an overhaul to regroup because they have to be prepared to "be ready when the Liberal gov't falls".
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I'm not a Scheer fan but he's not totally to blame, it's not like he didn't put the work into it.
There's still too many Harper era MP's or wannabe MP's still in the party and the majority of Canadians aren't into the socially conservative part of it.
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Someone said Scheer should probably dust off his résumé.

"It won't take long; it's pretty short."
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jimmy4321 wrote:I'm not a Scheer fan but he's not totally to blame, it's not like he didn't put the work into it.
There's still too many Harper era MP's or wannabe MP's still in the party and the majority of Canadians aren't into the socially conservative part of it.


That's true.

If in 2019 you're still anti-choice, anti-gay-marriage and think climate change is a hoax, you're really out of the mainstream and unacceptable to 2/3rds of voters.

We have to remember that this isn't the old Progressive Conservative Party. This is the Reform/Alliance with a shiny new name.

Unless they purge the party of the crazies, they'll probably have a tough time ever forming a government.

Unfortunately, the crazies are almost the whole party these days.
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We have to remember that this isn't the old Progressive Conservative Party. This is the Reform/Alliance with a shiny new name.

Unless they purge the party of the crazies, they'll probably have a tough time ever forming a government.

Unfortunately, the crazies are almost the whole party these days.


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crookedmember wrote:Someone said Scheer should probably dust off his résumé.

"It won't take long; it's pretty short."


He could always add "PM of Canada" (almost) to it.
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Andrew Scheer on the federal election result: ‘There’s no one more disappointed than me’
He's in our heads!
Like that he is more important than the rest of us filthy stink people
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Ka-El wrote:Canada sure dodged a bullet to the head this last election.


I agree. The Liberals were only short 13 seats from a majority. Major bullet dodged!!
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