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normaM wrote:Like that he is more important than the rest of us filthy stink people


He's definitely more important than the NDP and Green people, that's for sure. But most people are.
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K_teela wrote:My response was to someone who said 'Scheer' didnt lie..


And he didn't lie. That's the funny thing about this whole thing. The only people lying here are those calling Scheer a liar. It's really disgusting, but par for the course with the Liberals. But it doesn't really matter now does it. Time to start focusing on the next election, and the real problem, getting rid of the Liberals.
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crookedmember wrote:It's called LYING.


Not really. What I see is "spinning", by Liberals.
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crookedmember wrote:It's called LYING.

Of course, Scheer was lying, and trying to hide his lies and then refusing to address his lies when confronted on them. Good grief. That's the funny thing about this whole thing. The Cons were systematically spreading disinformation, including throughout the Chinese community in the lower mainland, and when called out on it refused to rectify what they were doing. Talk about arrogance! The only people lying here are those still trying to convince themselves Scheer was a viable alternative choice. It's really disgusting, but par for the course with the partisan Cons. But it doesn't really matter now does it. Time to start focusing on governing the country and providing benefits to all Canadians, not self-serving, pouting and petulant efforts to bring down the government. Canada certainly dodged a bullet to the head when Scheer failed to win a majority.
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Ka-El wrote:Of course, Scheer was lying,


LOL - yes, if you are wearing extremely thick Liberal partisan blinders, then this would be your conclusion. Anyone neutral, or even remotely "centrist", and with a few functioning brain cells, would be able to see through the deceptions pretty easily. But what is the fun in that? Lying about Harper worked in 2015, so why not do it again? So happy that at least the Liberals weren't rewarded with a majority this time. Let's hope in two years when we do this all again, the Liberal seat count drops even further. Come on Justin, time to screw over some more women in your "gender balanced" cabinet! We know it won't take long.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
Not really. What I see is "spinning", by Liberals.


Spinning deals with making the best of a bad situation.

It is not spinning when you falsely claim to be an insurance broker or falsely claim to have a degree from the U. of Regina when you don't.

That's called lying.
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To say that Scheer has never lied is akin to saying that Donald Trump has not lied or told a mistruth:

Donald Trump Reaches Yet Another Bleak Milestone With His Lies
The Washington Post reported that the president has now told more than 12,000 untruths since taking office.

By Lee Moran, HuffPost US


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/don ... ri18n=true
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flamingfingers wrote:To say that Scheer has never lied is akin to saying that Donald Trump has not lied or told a mistruth:

It is indeed ironic that the partisans in complete denial over the Cons disinformation campaign are the same partisan acolytes who are oblivious to Trump's disinformation campaign. There is a reason Trump loves the under-educated. It was a blunder on Scheer's part to presume Canadians would be that stupid.
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Obviously Scheer's base supporters are ill-educated, but it also takes a lot of conditioning to simply swallow lies and accept them as truth.

The right-wing in both Canada and the US exploited social media Breitbart, Rebel, Canada Proud, Fox News to turn these people into zombies.

Scheer lies because he knows he can get away with it and he also knows he can count on his base to spread his lies.

I don't do facebook, but I'm guessing it's full of "Scheer won by a million votes" posts.
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Any post-Trump leadership hopefuls will have to realize the public has been immunized now to a degree against misinformation. Everything is going to be fact-checked including those little fudged bits on resumes. Interesting that a big deal was made of Trudeau switching teaching positions from one school to another, yet the Cons are not interested in why it took Scheer nearly TEN years (and a switch in universities), to get a BA (not an astrophysics degree, or doctorate in Brain surgery).
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Then there's Scheer's misleading claim that Canada provides Billions in foreign aid to relatively rich countries. Depends what you call "foreign aid" and "rich".

"The Conservatives say that Canada is giving $2.2 billion in foreign aid to Argentina, Barbados, Brazil, China, Iran, Italy, Mexico and Turkey as well as to the "corrupt regimes" of Iran, Russia, North Korea and China.

This $2.2-billion figure was compiled from numbers contained in the federal government's own annual statistical report on international assistance for 2017-18 (the most recent year for which final figures are available.)

Looking closely at the numbers provided by the party, it appears Scheer has combined all amounts provided by Canada to countries for a variety of purposes — some money that does fall under the OECD definition of "official development assistance," and some that does not, says Liam Swiss, a professor of sociology at Memorial University and the president of the Canadian Association for the Study of International Development.

For example, in 2018, Canada provided $2 million to Italy — a G7 nation. But this was not humanitarian aid money, it was money committed by Global Affairs Canada for "international security and political affairs," according to the government report.

The report also notes that some of the assistance provided to Iran and China was part of an estimated portion of Canada's institutional support to organizations such as the World Food Program, the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria and the Global Environment Facility.

Much of the Iran money was related to international monitoring of its nuclear activities, Global Affairs Canada says. China also received funding for the implementation of the Montreal Protocol — an international treaty designed to phase out substances that damage the earth's ozone layer.

As for money to Russia, Canada did provide $200,000 in 2018: through an international project to provide assistance to LGBTQ people under threat, according to Global Affairs Canada. The Global Equality Fund is a U.S.-led initiative that funds local groups and occasionally individuals directly.

"They're painting every financial transfer that the country makes as being 'foreign aid' rather than paying a lot of attention to the reality of it," Swiss says of the Conservative platform.

"To my mind the policy is kind of purposely misleading the public about what Canada's aid does and, because Canada's public doesn't know so much about that, it's pretty easy to lie with statistics — in this case, to try to make it look like we're funnelling all sorts of money to dictators and wealthy countries, when in reality those funds are doing a lot of different things that aren't' really aid."

So, is it correct to say that Canada has spent $2.2 billion in foreign aid to high- and middle- income countries, some of which goes to "prop up foreign dictatorships"?

This amount has flowed to these countries, but not all of it has been provided under official development assistance.

For this reason, the statement by Scheer earns a rating of "a lot of baloney" — the statement is mostly inaccurate but contains elements of truth.

— Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, press conference in Toronto, Oct. 1, 2019.

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An interesting read
https://lietracker.ca/2019/01/19/andrew ... s-on-fire/
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normaM wrote:An interesting read
https://lietracker.ca/2019/01/19/andrew ... s-on-fire/
Someone on another forum said Andrew suffers from Liarrhea


Okay, but to be fair, we are a long way from the 12,000 plus lies of Trump. Sure our election is only a few weeks long, so not much time to manufacture stories. I don't think even Andrew would have the imagination to think up that many lies over the next couple of years. But we will have to examine carefully any statements coming out from that direction about what is actually going on in parliament. Americans have a league of news reporters fact-checking every Trump every day, every speech. I don't think here in Canada our reporters are really prepared for that.
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Silverstarqueen wrote:
Okay, but to be fair, we are a long way from the 12,000 plus lies of Trump..


Yes, Scheer has zero, so that's a long way.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
Silverstarqueen wrote:
Okay, but to be fair, we are a long way from the 12,000 plus lies of Trump..


Yes, Scheer has zero, so that's a long way.


Still dazzled by that dimpled smile? Scheer is not as advertised. Oh he's just a cheery family guy who likes to stick it to his opponent with lies. Ignoring them won't make them go away.The sad thing is, if Scheer had not resorted to all these lies and deceptions, he might have won the election.

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