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I have zero faith in the Canadian public so I will not make a prediction. I can only make a "hope for" outcome. Hope that Liberals are not in power. Same for the 2 left wing (communist, eco terrorist) abominations.
PPC and Conservatives form a coalition and get us out of the financial mess that the Libs will leave for future generations to deal with. Anything else is a dark day for Canada.
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hard to form a coalition with a party of 0-1 seats. The only party the Conservatives could hope to form a coalition with is the BQ, and I can guarantee this government would not last more than 2 years before falling.

Given the recent NDP surge, I'm no longer predicting a liberal majority. We will either see a liberal minority, or a coalition/confidence of Liberals, NDPs, and Greens.
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Omnitheo wrote:
Given the recent NDP surge, I'm no longer predicting a liberal majority.
It's been obvious for weeks that JT and gang were never going to get a majority.
We will either see a liberal minority, or a coalition/confidence of Liberals, NDPs, and Greens.
That sounds like one really awful coalition, of really stupid people.
Canadians were tricked into returning the same failed party to power by two things. The lie that Trump Tariffs are the greatest threat of our lifetime, and an assertion that Carney has some magical ability to control Trump.

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Omnitheo wrote: Given the recent NDP surge, I'm no longer predicting a liberal majority. We will either see a liberal minority, or a coalition/confidence of Liberals, NDPs, and Greens.
Bro there's not a chance the liberals will get the most seats, a liberal / ndp coalition maybe, but not a minority. The liberals are on pace to poll below 30% come monday, you can't win with those kind of numbers.
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votes do not directly translate to seats. The places that vote conservative tend to vote overwhelmingly conservative. It still only amounts to one seat though.

for example, lets take 2 ridings.

1 with 90% conservative support, 10% liberal support

Another with 45% conservative support, and 55% liberal support.

Overall that looks like out of 200% there is 135% conservative support and only 65% Liberal, but it still translates to 1 seat each bro.
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Omnitheo wrote:hard to form a coalition with a party of 0-1 seats. The only party the Conservatives could hope to form a coalition with is the BQ, and I can guarantee this government would not last more than 2 years before falling.

Given the recent NDP surge, I'm no longer predicting a liberal majority. We will either see a liberal minority, or a coalition/confidence of Liberals, NDPs, and Greens.
The optics of the Cons forming a coalition with the Bloc would be very bad indeed (remember when Harper told us how bad it was the Liberals were going to form a coalition with the separatists. So bad that he prorogued parliament over it.)

No one is going to win even close to a majority (baring some last minute story about Scheer or Trudeau being involved in some child sex ring), which means we will get a Liberal minority government backed by the NDP and possibly the Greens if needed.

EDIT: a Liberal minority backed by the NDP and/or Greens is far better than a Liberal majority. Trudeau doesn't deserve a second majority.
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Omnitheo wrote:
Overall that looks like out of 200% there is 135% conservative support and only 65% Liberal, but it still translates to 1 seat each bro.
And in Canada, the Left is fine with this. In the US, TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION!!! ARGHHH
Canadians were tricked into returning the same failed party to power by two things. The lie that Trump Tariffs are the greatest threat of our lifetime, and an assertion that Carney has some magical ability to control Trump.

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In the US, where there were only 2 choices, there was a very clear majority of votes to the party who did not get elected. Unfortunately, the US is also subject to excessive gerrymandering which helps ensure certain results. There were a number of problems with that election, however as you pointed out many times, that is the system they have. I look forward to you accepting the results of this election based on our form of democracy here in Canada.
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Omnitheo wrote: I look forward to you accepting the results of this election based on our form of democracy here in Canada.
I look forward to it too. I'm not like the idiots (and I'm not saying you specifically were either) that were going around screaming "NOT MY PRIME MINISTER" when Harper was elected, saying that he only got 39% of the popular vote, and then same said idiots were completely silent when Trudeau won with the same percentage. Those people are true scumbags. If Scheer does win a majority, or a minority, and forms a government, it'll be the idiots on the Left, as always, and just like when Trump won, who will be marching in the streets, screaming about how its not fair and the system is rigged. Every freaking time. Losers!!!
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Peter Mansbridge had some interesting things to say on Power and Politics earlier. He said that despite what the politicians are saying now if there's a difference of 10 or 20 seats, with say the Conservatives ahead, there's no way that Trudeau would try to hang on. He pointed out that Pierre Trudeau formed a minority government in 1972 with the Liberals ahead 109 to 107 in seats. We'll see if Peter's right.
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Peter is still on the air? I thought he retired last year?
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Omnitheo wrote:votes do not directly translate to seats.
Ditto. You ever seen how high liberal support is in atlantic canada? It tends to balance out the conservative dominate prairies.
That argument makes sense in areas with extremely localized support, like the bloc in Quebec, but when it comes to the conservatives & liberals, you can almost always tell who won the most seats just by looking at the national percentages.
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  • Glacier wrote:Peter is still on the air? I thought he retired last year?
He did retire from The National but he was on Power and Politics with Vassy Kapelos. He's been going around the country interviewing people and he was there to share some of what he heard.
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Omnitheo wrote:hard to form a coalition with a party of 0-1 seats.
So your prediction is for 0 or 1 PPC seat. Even 1 PPC seat is better than any left wing seat. :up:

As for the BQ, they are not a Canadian political party as their true mandate is to separate. They themselves do not see any allegiance to our country. Truly cannot imagine ANY party making a deal with them. :135:
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A party of 1 can't be the difference? Ask Chuck Cadman about that.
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