May and June rain missing this year

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We are setting up for a huge fire season. May and June are usually wet months and July and August are dry. In years when we miss the May and June rains, we have a lot more fires and big ones, too. It's looking like we might see some June temperature records fall in the next week. And no significant rain in sight.

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bob vernon wrote: Jun 22nd, 2021, 11:13 am We are setting up for a huge fire season. May and June are usually wet months and July and August are dry. In years when we miss the May and June rains, we have a lot more fires and big ones, too. It's looking like we might see some June temperature records fall in the next week. And no significant rain in sight.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/ ... -for-weeks
I am very surprised that Forestry has not banned all fires, even campfires in B.C. Enough people have propane campfires/stoves now that most folks would not mind at all. We can't stop lightning from starting fires but they CAN help the cause by banning all man-made fires presently.
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Carbon is the culprit.
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2017 was the last time we had a June this dry, mind you there was more rain in May of 2017 alone than there has been this whole year so far. It's very dry.
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bob vernon wrote: Jun 22nd, 2021, 11:13 am We are setting up for a huge fire season. May and June are usually wet months and July and August are dry. In years when we miss the May and June rains, we have a lot more fires and big ones, too. It's looking like we might see some June temperature records fall in the next week. And no significant rain in sight.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/ ... -for-weeks
The fire danger rating this year is nothing like 2017...
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Glacier wrote: Jun 22nd, 2021, 1:51 pm The fire danger rating this year is nothing like 2017...
Do you have the map for June 22nd 2017 saved?
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Frisk wrote: Jun 22nd, 2021, 2:29 pm
Glacier wrote: Jun 22nd, 2021, 1:51 pm The fire danger rating this year is nothing like 2017...
Do you have the map for June 22nd 2017 saved?
No, but remember that 2018 ended up being worse than 2017, and yet, there was no fire danger rating to speak of until mid-July....
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Just for fun, here is the comparison between 2017 and last year...
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It's all hype?
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There was little to no growth of the underbrush this year. No rain no growth.
That makes the fire risk less.
If this had been a wet spring followed by a dry summer I would be worried.
That being said there is no way to truly predict weather, climate or number of fires.
Why use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice.
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JagXKR wrote: Jun 24th, 2021, 8:03 pm There was little to no growth of the underbrush this year. No rain no growth.
That makes the fire risk less.
If this had been a wet spring followed by a dry summer I would be worried.
That being said there is no way to truly predict weather, climate or number of fires.
How do you know there's been little to no underbrush growth?
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tsayta wrote: Jun 24th, 2021, 8:49 pm How do you know there's been little to no underbrush growth?
Oh I forgot, underbrush doesn't need moisture to grow. It uses fairy dust.
Again, no rain no growth.
Watch any plant that gets no water. No growth.
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What I meant was have you observed this first hand in the forest? I have been out quite a bit and hadn't noticed. You have a good point though. I shall check it out next time I'm out
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JagXKR wrote: Jun 24th, 2021, 8:03 pm There was little to no growth of the underbrush this year. No rain no growth.
That makes the fire risk less.
If this had been a wet spring followed by a dry summer I would be worried.
That being said there is no way to truly predict weather, climate or number of fires.
Generally speaking I'd agree with you, but there was plenty of moisture, and a very robust green up, last year. Don't think anyone went out and weed wacked the works - it's still there. If this were the third or forth year of significant drought I'd agree with you 100%, but it's not.

Once this heat bubble is done, I'd expect it will go out with a bang, boom, the occasional sizzle and thunderous crash. We can hope there's some significant moisture that pushes in with it, because the wildfire service will probably need some time to get a handle on things at the end of this.

Enjoy the heat, but buckle up - we're in it. Get your summer photos now, so you can fill the facebook pages later.

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Drip_Torch wrote: Jun 24th, 2021, 11:03 pm Generally speaking I'd agree with you, but there was plenty of moisture, and a very robust green up, last year. Don't think anyone went out and weed wacked the works - it's still there. If this were the third or forth year of significant drought I'd agree with you 100%, but it's not.
I forgot about last years growth. DOH!
I recant my previous assertion.
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2017 was an extremely dry summer. June through to August had something like a third of a mm of rain each month.

Right now we are looking at a week or more of extreme heat then a week of just hot weather. No rain in sight.
So the next couple of weeks could get pretty ugly.

We already have a couple of pet carriers available and will keep other necessities close by.
I'm not concerned about our yard, but one neighbour has hoards of lumber, firewood, junk and weeds several feet high.
Another neighbour has a couple of large spruce trees that he never waters. They would explode if a spark hit them.

Otherwise, all we can do is hope for the best.
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