Kelowna Civic Elections this October......HEAVY Changes Needed

[Sonny Taylor]

That's exactly what we need. Common sense. Except one person's idea of "common sense" is far different from the next person's. We hear those words every election, along with the word "vibrant".

I've never heard a single politician use the word common sense. Are you just making things up. Maybe you could refresh our memory on which candidate actually said I'm going to use common sense if you can

I guess you've never heard of Ontario's former premier Mike Harris getting elected on his "Common Sense Revolution" platform in 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_Revolution

(I know I'm late to the party here, responding to an almost month old post)

[spooker]

But back when those choices were made they were probably just thinking about how that would deprive businesses of drive-by customers ... though considering that the City doesn't have any say over the highway corridor, it's all up to MoTI who knows how provincial budgets would have come into play

Far back as I can remember, the excuse was "the city won't allow it cuz they're ugly and not in keeping with our image". Someone could prove me wrong.

Sounds like people wanted to blame those that were local instead of actually understanding that the City doesn't have control over the highway corridor... just like how people blame so many things on our elected officials yet don't seem to understand they don't have control on people moving here, bringing their families and their profit from their home in the Lower Mainland and end up driving up houses prices and pressure on housing supply ... or they blame them for the homeless because they think their inviting them in while the province provides services and the weather is an easy draw ...

Either we actually take the time to understand the candidates and actually vote ... or we take what those who actually voted elected ... and realize that a lot of processes we enable are reactionary rather than being proactive ... people don't like seeing their tax dollars being spent if they can't see the problem being solved, they complain and vow to push those officials out the door ... we have to educate ourselves as much as we need to hold officials to stay educated on the same

[Davis_Kyle]

But back when those choices were made they were probably just thinking about how that would deprive businesses of drive-by customers ... though considering that the City doesn't have any say over the highway corridor, it's all up to MoTI who knows how provincial budgets would have come into play

Far back as I can remember, the excuse was "the city won't allow it cuz they're ugly and not in keeping with our image". Someone could prove me wrong.

Unfortunately the province gets the say. I have had conversations with MOT engineers about the safety of various intersections based on ICBC data, and all council can do is press releases and lobbying. No direct control.

[rustled]

Far back as I can remember, the excuse was "the city won't allow it cuz they're ugly and not in keeping with our image". Someone could prove me wrong.

Sounds like people wanted to blame those that were local

Sounds like trying to avoid anyone expecting the city to take any responsibility for traffic congestion on Harvey.

Unless someone here KNOWS the city wasn't putting up roadblocks against overpasses, this is just hopeful speculating that what we heard for years and years and years about it was wrong.

There's not much point suggesting people should get "educated" on this issue while you're settling for speculating about it, IMO.

[common_sense_guy]

I've never heard a single politician use the word common sense. Are you just making things up. Maybe you could refresh our memory on which candidate actually said I'm going to use common sense if you can

I guess you've never heard of Ontario's former premier Mike Harris getting elected on his "Common Sense Revolution" platform in 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_Revolution

(I know I'm late to the party here, responding to an almost month old post)

No I haven't heard about that. Hence my whole point of never hearing any politician use that word. Are you saying I have heard a politician use that word.? This is my personal experience that you're ragging on. I'm sorry if it doesn't live up to your thoughts of what my memories are

[Lady tehMa]

Far back as I can remember, the excuse was "the city won't allow it cuz they're ugly and not in keeping with our image". Someone could prove me wrong.

Sounds like people wanted to blame those that were local instead of actually understanding that the City doesn't have control over the highway corridor... <snip>

33 and 97 are under the control of the Ministry of Transportation, you can't get the city to repair even a pothole on them. It's completely out of their hands.

[cv23]

Sounds like people wanted to blame those that were local instead of actually understanding that the City doesn't have control over the highway corridor...

Not entirely true as the CoK has both input and liability within the highway corridor.
While it was at the MoT's request that improvements to the bridge approach be made it was the CoK who were the ones who decided to block off the south side of Water st from access to Hwy 97 so it was the CoK who McD's successfully sued.
If the MoT had total control over the highway corridor then they were the one's McD'ds would have sued but MoT wasn't even mentioned in the court case, only the CoK.

[Sonny Taylor]

I guess you've never heard of Ontario's former premier Mike Harris getting elected on his "Common Sense Revolution" platform in 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_Revolution

(I know I'm late to the party here, responding to an almost month old post)

No I haven't heard about that. Hence my whole point of never hearing any politician use that word. Are you saying I have heard a politician use that word.? This is my personal experience that you're ragging on. I'm sorry if it doesn't live up to your thoughts of what my memories are

Whoa... I apologize if my post offended you; it wasn't meant that way at all. I think you're reading way to much into what I said.

In your original post you appeared to ask a question. My intent was to simply answer that question; not imply some deficiency or fault in you. I'm not ragging on you. I'm surprised you seem to be reading some offense coming from me.

Peace! I'm not here to offend others. Keep up the good posts; I like reading them.

[rustled]

Sounds like people wanted to blame those that were local instead of actually understanding that the City doesn't have control over the highway corridor... <snip>

33 and 97 are under the control of the Ministry of Transportation, you can't get the city to repair even a pothole on them. It's completely out of their hands.

The City gets input, though. As far back as I can remember, any discussion of "we need overpasses" was met with "the City is opposed to overpasses for Kelowna". Perhaps that was urban legend, but I doubt it. Same "don't change our city" mindset that opposed tall buildings.

[CrystalCity]

I thought it was a by-pass (hwy around the city) not an overpass (elevated road over another) that the city was opposed to back in the day so that businesses wouldn't be hurt by it?

There was a missed opportunity to build an overpass at 33 & 97 prior to the Holiday Inn relocating, It's not the worst corner in the city. There are too many band-aid fixes applied to transportation issues, most involving the nuisance of making left turns.

[just popping in]

Tom Macauley running for Council.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/3 ... eat#375374

[Gone_Fishin]

Tom Macauley running for Council.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/3 ... eat#375374

Friends with failed Liberal candidate Tim Krupa. That should be enough to look elsewhere.

[the truth]

Tom Macauley running for Council.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/3 ... eat#375374

Friends with failed Liberal candidate Tim Krupa. That should be enough to look elsewhere.

yup. hard pass, talks about go karts but says nothing about crime. says it all

[69cutlass]

Tom Macauley running for Council.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/3 ... eat#375374

His campaign is 3/4 decent. . The rest is a crap shoot. His big negative is that once again he was a mission group employee.

[lensbaby]

His platform seems to be a mishmash of unrealistic stuff. I would prefer to see someone who at least pays lip service to financial management and good governance.