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Clipper
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Fire fighters

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Interesting but way too complicated for Canada.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... efighters/
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Clipper wrote: Jun 7th, 2024, 7:27 am Interesting but way too complicated for Canada.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... efighters/
according to my father, conscription for wildfire fighting was a thing in the 50s and 60s... police would go to the bar. , and take everyone for the cause.... and my uncle, who worked in corrections, said they would send work gangs from the prison
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Re: Fire fighters

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mullyman wrote: Jun 12th, 2024, 12:00 pm
Clipper wrote: Jun 7th, 2024, 7:27 am Interesting but way too complicated for Canada.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... efighters/
according to my father, conscription for wildfire fighting was a thing in the 50s and 60s... police would go to the bar. , and take everyone for the cause.... and my uncle, who worked in corrections, said they would send work gangs from the prison
This was a thing, but much more important was the establishment of community militias after WWII known as Civil Defense. These were mostly ex-military personnel who were primarily tasked with preparing communities for nuclear attack during the early cold war, given equipment and funding by the federal government but composed of locals. However, they were eventually tasked for being the first line of disaster response in general, including wildfires.

But what happened over time is that emergency response was centralized under provincial bureaucracy while anything police/military was centralized under federal. It eventually evolved into what we have now: a provincial bureaucracy that asserts total control over all mitigation and response while prohibiting it for anyone else, and a federal government that sends in police and military to actively intimidate and harass locals trying to protect their communities. It's all backwards.
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^^^^

Government fifedoms protecting their “turf”

No one else is allowed to participate
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Catsumi wrote: Jun 13th, 2024, 9:44 pm ^^^^

Government fifedoms protecting their “turf”

No one else is allowed to participate
Of course no one else is allowed to participate. For their own safety and for the provincial treasury. If the Wildfire Service allows anyone near a fire, the province is responsible for their safety. That's why they had roadblocks around the Shuswap fires last summer. Can you imagine how many walk-on firefighters would suddenly come down with a bad back and sore knees. Injuries that only money, and lots of it, could compensate. "Oh, I hurt my back walking to the fire".

There are private fire fighting crews around the province but they all have had training and had to pass a fitness test and have equipment. And, oh yeah, they must have insurance.
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^^^^^


In other words, gone are the days when ranchers and home owners could take steps to protect their own property

Now, move aside, shut up, wait and wait for the “pros” to show up….if they do at all
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Re: Fire fighters

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It appears that the BCWS are union members or close to that .. so yes the ranchers have to stand back and let the union guys with tickets to prove that they know... do the job.. wow what a gong show..

https://www.bcgeu.ca/your_new_collectiv ... re_service

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