Canadian Wildfire Season - 2024

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Eco-arsonist squads are early this year and in full force.
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BC Landlord wrote: Apr 22nd, 2024, 11:27 am Eco-arsonist squads are early this year and in full force.
What? Human caused does not directly translate to arson. It's mostly carelessness like campfires not being put out.
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JLives wrote: Apr 22nd, 2024, 12:58 pm

What? Human caused does not directly translate to arson. It's mostly carelessness like campfires not being put out.
Camp fires starting a forest fire is extremely rare. Slash piles on the other hand...The 1600 ha fire in the Cariboo for example was started by slash piles that were lit up a month ago, and just never went out because it got dry so quickly.

But I agree, these are not arson. Arson fires are a small fraction of human caused fires.
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Just got back from a walk about in the 3 blind mice trails with the dogs.
I noticed a ton of pine needles on the ground. When it is dry and moisture is at a premium the pine and fir trees will shed needles to reduce their moisture loss. Some trails the needles were 1/4" deep.
No shortage of cones as well on the ground further showing the trees could be stressed.
Moss on the rocks just crumbled to powder.

South west aspect so it does get sun better part of the day and we've had lots of wind the past few weeks so dry is easy to understand.
It's dry out there !
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Glacier wrote: Apr 22nd, 2024, 1:07 pm
JLives wrote: Apr 22nd, 2024, 12:58 pm

What? Human caused does not directly translate to arson. It's mostly carelessness like campfires not being put out.
Camp fires starting a forest fire is extremely rare. Slash piles on the other hand...The 1600 ha fire in the Cariboo for example was started by slash piles that were lit up a month ago, and just never went out because it got dry so quickly.

But I agree, these are not arson. Arson fires are a small fraction of human caused fires.
Category 3 fires will be banned in the Kamloops fire district as of May 3rd., however Category 2 ones will still be permitted. Someone at the top is not thinking (or afraid to include category 2 in the ban); those fires can get away just as easy and become a wildfire.

Category 2 open fire
This category refers to fires, other than a campfire, that burn:

Material in one pile not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Material concurrently in 2 piles each not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Stubble or grass over an area that does not exceed 0.2 hectares
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Funny how the Cariboo and northeast always get the fire bans before the south when the south is hotter and drier and more populated.
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Glacier wrote: Apr 24th, 2024, 11:49 am Funny how the Cariboo and northeast always get the fire bans before the south when the south is hotter and drier and more populated.
That's because of at least one LARGE wildfire now burning in the Caribou that was likely caused by a category 2 or 3 burn that got away due to high winds. So far this hasn't happened in the South (so far)...but if they keep allowing category 2 burns, it surely will occur.

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The Wildmare fire is a major concern:
The Peace River Regional District has issued an Evacuation Alert in the Pine River area due to the Wildmare Creek wildfire. This wildfire is a potential threat to life and safety. Anyone in the affected area must be ready to leave on short notice.
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Knowing this is only April and there is this many already. I’m not really looking forward to summer time.
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New Wildfire near Joe Rich area. I believe it is in a Cut Block. Forestry and Fire Dept on scene. Slash burn (class 2 that perhaps got away)? Who knows but EVERYthing except small campfires should be banned in BC and fast.

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Finally, the Coastal Fire Region has the right idea; why not the Interior though (where its drier than the coast)?

https://blog.gov.bc.ca/bcwildfire/coast ... yJ_Xxc6R-Z
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XT225 wrote: May 13th, 2024, 1:26 pm Finally, the Coastal Fire Region has the right idea; why not the Interior though (where its drier than the coast)?

https://blog.gov.bc.ca/bcwildfire/coast ... yJ_Xxc6R-Z
Category 3 fires are already banned in our area... https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safe ... strictions
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I knew that Category 3 fires were banned in the Kamloops/Okanagan region but why still allow Category 2 fires? Thats the crazy part. The Southeast district still allows 2 and 3 but that area is still quite wet. This area is dry! We have no retardent bombers here, either; last year they were in place at YYF by the first of May I believe. (likely they were sent North for now). A category 2 is NOT a campfire size and could easily get away and become a major wildfire in this region. Why take the chance; someone in Forestry is out to lunch.

Category 2 open fire
This category refers to fires, other than a campfire, that burn:

Material in one pile not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Material concurrently in 2 piles each not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Stubble or grass over an area that does not exceed 0.2 hectares
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XT225 wrote: May 13th, 2024, 2:53 pm I knew that Category 3 fires were banned in the Kamloops/Okanagan region but why still allow Category 2 fires? Thats the crazy part. The Southeast district still allows 2 and 3 but that area is still quite wet. This area is dry! We have no retardent bombers here, either; last year they were in place at YYF by the first of May I believe. (likely they were sent North for now). A category 2 is NOT a campfire size and could easily get away and become a major wildfire in this region. Why take the chance; someone in Forestry is out to lunch.

Category 2 open fire
This category refers to fires, other than a campfire, that burn:

Material in one pile not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Material concurrently in 2 piles each not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Stubble or grass over an area that does not exceed 0.2 hectares
No category 2 fire has started a wildfire in BC in over 10 years. No one is even making cat 2 fires. It's basically a situation where one pile is left and they'll burn it. Cat 3 is when you've got like 100 piles to burn.

BTW, the Okanagan is quite wet the snow hasn't even finished melting up where the slash piles are situated.
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Glacier wrote: May 13th, 2024, 3:37 pm
XT225 wrote: May 13th, 2024, 2:53 pm I knew that Category 3 fires were banned in the Kamloops/Okanagan region but why still allow Category 2 fires? Thats the crazy part. The Southeast district still allows 2 and 3 but that area is still quite wet. This area is dry! We have no retardent bombers here, either; last year they were in place at YYF by the first of May I believe. (likely they were sent North for now). A category 2 is NOT a campfire size and could easily get away and become a major wildfire in this region. Why take the chance; someone in Forestry is out to lunch.

Category 2 open fire
This category refers to fires, other than a campfire, that burn:

Material in one pile not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Material concurrently in 2 piles each not exceeding 2 metres in height and 3 metres in width
Stubble or grass over an area that does not exceed 0.2 hectares
No category 2 fire has started a wildfire in BC in over 10 years. No one is even making cat 2 fires. It's basically a situation where one pile is left and they'll burn it. Cat 3 is when you've got like 100 piles to burn.

BTW, the Okanagan is quite wet the snow hasn't even finished melting up where the slash piles are situated.
Gee, it looks like you were wrong. if no one is making cat 2 fires here, then WHY would they now ban them as of May 17th....lol. :swear: Its about time! :up:

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