Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
vancouver is much wetter than LA . its like comparing apples to oranges
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
only if the elites want more land to rebuild on ??
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
The powers that be are informing you what is coming.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
I'm being serious
test the ground, forest floors, for barium
it's a fire accelerant
test the ground, forest floors, for barium
it's a fire accelerant
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
And I thought the voice of reason would sound like this:
The primary cause of the LA fires is years of drought. In the last two years combined the Okanagan has received just 50% of historic rain and snow amounts. Perhaps we should be proactive and do what we can to fire harden our homes and communities.
It’s not a conspiracy or doomsaying if the facts offer cause for action.
The primary cause of the LA fires is years of drought. In the last two years combined the Okanagan has received just 50% of historic rain and snow amounts. Perhaps we should be proactive and do what we can to fire harden our homes and communities.
It’s not a conspiracy or doomsaying if the facts offer cause for action.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
Nothing conspiracy about trying to prepare homes and communities to be more resilient against natural disaster. That's common sense.Ironyisnotdead wrote: ↑Jan 18th, 2025, 9:05 am And I thought the voice of reason would sound like this:
The primary cause of the LA fires is years of drought. In the last two years combined the Okanagan has received just 50% of historic rain and snow amounts. Perhaps we should be proactive and do what we can to fire harden our homes and communities.
It’s not a conspiracy or doomsaying if the facts offer cause for action.
It is conspiracy (not you saying it) to assume the fires were set to clear land for elites (notice elite people had their homes burned) and it is conspiracy to think and article like this is the "powers that be" warning they will cause an intentional fire.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
Wildfires have very little to do with climate change.
A forest is a bed of fuel that burns - readily – all it takes is a spark.
How many years, how many fires, how many homes, and how many lives have to perish before somebody start taking those fires serious.
Before you build a beautiful home, in the middle of that lush forest – why not just remove that fuel – it’s called MITIGATION.
A forest is a bed of fuel that burns - readily – all it takes is a spark.
How many years, how many fires, how many homes, and how many lives have to perish before somebody start taking those fires serious.
Before you build a beautiful home, in the middle of that lush forest – why not just remove that fuel – it’s called MITIGATION.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
how about we start by cleaning up all the homeless fire bugs, that should solve 90% of the problemIronyisnotdead wrote: ↑Jan 18th, 2025, 9:05 am And I thought the voice of reason would sound like this:
The primary cause of the LA fires is years of drought. In the last two years combined the Okanagan has received just 50% of historic rain and snow amounts. Perhaps we should be proactive and do what we can to fire harden our homes and communities.
It’s not a conspiracy or doomsaying if the facts offer cause for action.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
Well then you thought wrong. The truth being that on average the last five years have varied between high and low volumes of precip. The last two yrs however, 2023 and 2024 have been way above normal precip for this period. And on average, the last decade has been pretty good for California water. The Hoover damn (Meade Lake I believe) is approaching it's all time high water mark.Ironyisnotdead wrote: ↑Jan 18th, 2025, 9:05 am And I thought the voice of reason would sound like this:
The primary cause of the LA fires is years of drought. In the last two years combined the Okanagan has received just 50% of historic rain and snow amounts. Perhaps we should be proactive and do what we can to fire harden our homes and communities.
It’s not a conspiracy or doomsaying if the facts offer cause for action.
Then one can point to Tulare Lake in California. It disappeared completely decades ago because of connection to all it's tributaries in it's catchment area for agricultural purposes. (And now the Canadians know where their produce comes from.) Tulare Lake has been dust on a dinner plate for a decade. And now we have teenagers looking at a lake hundreds of miles long that have never seen water there before. And up to 35 ft deep too.
I think the point here is that as humans, we are woefully lacking in any kind of climate prediction cuz so far, not a one I can think of have proposed a model for climate (and we have had dozens and dozens of climate czars put out their predictions) have had their climate model even be close to accurate when actual climate data empirically collected with all the rigors of scientific jurisprudence intact have been applied. In simple terms, not a single scientist has proven anthropogenic climate change one tiny bit.
Instead I see it as the method of the Klaus schwab global wealthy snobs to maintain their power over society.
We don't need electric cars for lords sake, electric cars are just a way for these elite narcissist's to control where you can travel and when you can travel. Where you can charge and for how much Kw/hr. Enter this area and you need to buy a permit
Trump, and this is such pure irony it is sick.........is the Harbinger of Truth here by rubbing the populations' collective noses into the reality that they are letting themselves be cattle herded to what Klaus Shwab and Justine Trudeau see as being the perfect Socialist Utopian Society. All while protecting from all eyes their buried and trust fund wealth.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
Interesting here is my goggle results... ho hum
Updated Jan 9, 2025
Continuing a 22-year downward trend, water levels in Lake Mead stand at their lowest since April 1937, the water level at Lake Mead in Nevada, USA, was 1064.16 feet above sea level and 33.78% of Full Pool as of its last reading on Jan 9, 2025, Lake Mead is down -5.02 feet from one year ago.
Updated Jan 9, 2025
Continuing a 22-year downward trend, water levels in Lake Mead stand at their lowest since April 1937, the water level at Lake Mead in Nevada, USA, was 1064.16 feet above sea level and 33.78% of Full Pool as of its last reading on Jan 9, 2025, Lake Mead is down -5.02 feet from one year ago.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
Thanks for the facts, not opinions.
— It’s also the swings between wet and dry years that add fuel to the fires.
— what’s all the hate for EV’s. The fuel costs 1/3 to 1/2 and maintenance is much lower. Plus you can create your own fuel with a few solar panels. Can’t easily do that with gas or diesel.
— plus the fire seasons in CA, OR, WA & BC are totally different in intensity and scope from the 1960’s. I was there. If it’s not climate change then it’s forest industry mismanagement, or both. It’s not weather or arson since firefighting techniques have improved exponentially.
— if you love Trump, give up your health care, take on your $100k share of the US national debt, buy a gun and move. He created 1/4 of that debt and will be creating more on Monday. Fill yer boots.
— It’s also the swings between wet and dry years that add fuel to the fires.
— what’s all the hate for EV’s. The fuel costs 1/3 to 1/2 and maintenance is much lower. Plus you can create your own fuel with a few solar panels. Can’t easily do that with gas or diesel.
— plus the fire seasons in CA, OR, WA & BC are totally different in intensity and scope from the 1960’s. I was there. If it’s not climate change then it’s forest industry mismanagement, or both. It’s not weather or arson since firefighting techniques have improved exponentially.
— if you love Trump, give up your health care, take on your $100k share of the US national debt, buy a gun and move. He created 1/4 of that debt and will be creating more on Monday. Fill yer boots.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
You are wrong.....the primary cause of forest fires is not drought. To suggest there is a direct correlation between total annual precip and the amount of wildfire in an area is a straw man argument. While there are obvious correlations of fire to reduced rainfall, drought is not the prime indicator.Ironyisnotdead wrote: ↑Jan 18th, 2025, 9:05 am And I thought the voice of reason would sound like this:
The primary cause of the LA fires is years of drought. In the last two years combined the Okanagan has received just 50% of historic rain and snow amounts. Perhaps we should be proactive and do what we can to fire harden our homes and communities.
It’s not a conspiracy or doomsaying if the facts offer cause for action.
Just looking at annual Okanagan precip since 2000.........the amount of precip has varied by about 4 inches for the entire year.
Ya just can't make loosy goosy declarations on climate change based on nothing more than annual precip. What about humidity.....wind speed......dew point.......vegetative moisture content.........soil moisture content, warm air inversions, average daily temp.
So please stop your armchair climate science because you are clearly way over your head as are 98% of people when they want to explain climate science. I am part of the 98% as well. The difference between myself and yourself is that I recognize my climate knowledge failings whereas you........ hold yourself out as knowledgeable just because rainfall in Kelowna was a cpl inches less in 2023 than 2022 and 2024?
I hope you are understanding that it is impossible to draw any kind of climate change conclusion at this time with so few available data points.
I did a lot of computer modeling for my Masters Thesis (not weather related) and what I learned very very quickly is that one's entire Hypothesis will be quickly destroyed if your data is weak. The next thing you learn is finding quality data that was collected properly and without author bias is very difficult to find and more importantly, can it be trusted.
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Re: Could a massive wildfire devastate Metro Vancouver similar to Los Angeles?
“Ya just can't make loosy goosy declarations on climate change based on nothing more than annual precip. What about humidity.....wind speed......dew point.......vegetative moisture content.........soil moisture content, warm air inversions, average daily temp”
Funny, but all those factors seem to me like potential effects of, you guessed it, climate change. That what climate scientists look at and report on in the articles and studies I’ve read.
How long until we have enough “data points” to take action? Paraphrasing the economist John Kenneth Galbraith about the economy when others didn’t want to take any action to boost the economy, he said, “if we wait until the long run for everything to sort itself out we’ll all be dead.”
Funny, but all those factors seem to me like potential effects of, you guessed it, climate change. That what climate scientists look at and report on in the articles and studies I’ve read.
How long until we have enough “data points” to take action? Paraphrasing the economist John Kenneth Galbraith about the economy when others didn’t want to take any action to boost the economy, he said, “if we wait until the long run for everything to sort itself out we’ll all be dead.”