Russia and US agree to work toward ending Ukraine war in a remarkable diplomatic shift

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I agree with the statement so I should have never been a war there in the first place! It's all begins in 2014 when America, and that sneaky CIA front usaid causes a overthrow of the democratically elected leader only to install a regime of Nazis! Now with the million people dead and ground lost, and the weapons company is of course made trillions of dollars and I hear the BlackRock is now bought up half of the entire country. What a disaster! A needless disaster. The most important take home message is that people in bed with the government use the excuses to send several billion dollars over to allegedly help, but when it gets there it all disappears and there's no accountability. Or more recently we just heard that all the weapons that were brought over were just sold! It's just a total scam from the bottom to the top! Never listen to the mainstream news spouters of propaganda
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Because dictated Peace terms like the Treaty of Versailles tend to work out well
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how about that, trump just might get this deal done in a few weeks ,yet the dems have done nothing to help end this war in the last years
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Jamz wrote: Feb 18th, 2025, 1:38 pm I agree with the statement so I should have never been a war there in the first place! It's all begins in 2014 when America, and that sneaky CIA front usaid causes a overthrow of the democratically elected leader only to install a regime of Nazis! Now with the million people dead and ground lost, and the weapons company is of course made trillions of dollars and I hear the BlackRock is now bought up half of the entire country. What a disaster! A needless disaster. The most important take home message is that people in bed with the government use the excuses to send several billion dollars over to allegedly help, but when it gets there it all disappears and there's no accountability. Or more recently we just heard that all the weapons that were brought over were just sold! It's just a total scam from the bottom to the top! Never listen to the mainstream news spouters of propaganda
Correct :smt045 Over 200 billion in aid and weapons are missing, the Swiss alps resorts are filled with rich
Ukrainian's spending a million dollars in an afternoon, a lot of the weapon's are now in the hand's of the
Mexican drug cartels. Volodymyr Zelenskyy's goal is to assure the maximum amount of Ukrainian casualties
so what's left can be carved up by the likes of BlackRock... rinse and repeat.
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Johnnycheese wrote: Feb 18th, 2025, 2:58 pm
Jamz wrote: Feb 18th, 2025, 1:38 pm I agree with the statement so I should have never been a war there in the first place! It's all begins in 2014 when America, and that sneaky CIA front usaid causes a overthrow of the democratically elected leader only to install a regime of Nazis! Now with the million people dead and ground lost, and the weapons company is of course made trillions of dollars and I hear the BlackRock is now bought up half of the entire country. What a disaster! A needless disaster. The most important take home message is that people in bed with the government use the excuses to send several billion dollars over to allegedly help, but when it gets there it all disappears and there's no accountability. Or more recently we just heard that all the weapons that were brought over were just sold! It's just a total scam from the bottom to the top! Never listen to the mainstream news spouters of propaganda
Correct :smt045 Over 200 billion in aid and weapons are missing, the Swiss alps resorts are filled with rich
Ukrainian's spending a million dollars in an afternoon, a lot of the weapon's are now in the hand's of the
Mexican drug cartels. Volodymyr Zelenskyy's goal is to assure the maximum amount of Ukrainian casualties
so what's left can be carved up by the likes of BlackRock... rinse and repeat.
Please provide a citation/evidence for this information.
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the truth wrote: Feb 18th, 2025, 2:35 pm how about that, trump just might get this deal done in a few weeks ,yet the dems have done nothing to help end this war in the last years
Wonder what part of the Ukraine Trump is going to "own"? My guess is a nice little Black Sea Rivera.

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Someone needs to tell A. H. 47 that Putzin started the war.....not Ukraine.
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One dictator working with another dictator. Nothing new here. Next up….the rest of the free world. We are headed for a disaster globally. Start stock piling and build a bomb shelter. Trump will take the Americas and Puting will take Europe.
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do you honestly believe that.
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If by remarkable you mean totally expected and unsurprising with Trump in charge, then yes, it's remarkable.
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Yep, that dastardly CIA had their fingerprints all over it:

Absolutely nothing to do with the will of the people wanting to align with Europe because of the rampant Russian influenced corruption, nothing at al.... [icon_lol2.gif]

In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests known as "Euromaidan" began in response to President Yanukovych's decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), instead choosing closer ties to Russia. Euromaidan soon developed into the largest democratic mass movement in Europe since 1989.[29] Earlier that year the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had overwhelmingly approved finalizing the agreement;[30] Russia had pressured Ukraine to reject it.[/b][31] The scope of the protests widened, with calls for the resignation of Yanukovych and the Azarov government.[32] Protesters opposed what they saw as widespread government corruption and abuse of power, the influence of Russia and oligarchs, police brutality, human rights violations,[33][34] and repressive anti-protest laws.[33]
This US Russian chit chat is going to fall on deaf ears in Europe without Ukraine at the table.


No NATO troops you say poo-tin : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... n-ukraine/
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The US gave Hussein weapons then killed him.
The US gave Gaddafi weapons then killed him.
The US gave Zelenskyy weapons ...........

The Warsaw Pact dissolved in 1991 ...NATO should have dissolved too.

Now wait and see what Ukraine's other neighbours do to protect their ethnics....
Ukraine will be carved up and the Ukraine that began in 1917 will be a fraction of itself.
No big deal... Ukraine borders have never lasted more than 100 years in a row anyhow.

With Belarus to the north, Poland, Slovakia & Hungary to the west, Romania and Moldova (Transnistria is next) to the south and your crappy cousin to the east - can't help but say that "it's a really xtra crappy neighbourhood you're in"....
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Looks like the USA & Russia are the new Axis powers forming a league of dictators. The big powers meet to discuss a new alliance and the fate of Ukraine. Ukraine was not invited. The European powers were left out. This is very, very bad. Is everyone blind? Looks like the usual cabal of right-wing commentators is cheering on Putin and Trump, and democracy be damned.

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