Evidence of God-Guided Evolution vs Scientific Evolution

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Isn't the answer '42'?

Sorry, reality is this is a belief, by the belief holder, from their perspective, given their historical education and experience (religious or otherwise). There are too many 'truths' and probably no absolute. At least, I've never seen or observed one.
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mookiebud wrote:Isn't the answer '42'?


Yes it is, but now we have to build another computer to find out what the ultimate question is.
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katts wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5cXWElb-GE&feature=related


Brilliant as usual, Uncle Pat./golfclap/
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while there is debate as to "what"Archaeopteryx is, it is a matter of catagorizing.
The platypus of Australia is a bird is it not (because it has web feet and a duck bill. It is just missing feathers)?
Is feathers the only distinction for a bird. Pretty slim catagorizing.
Flight is not in the distinction for ostriches and emus and penguins cannot fly(but we have catagorized them as birds).
BTW do penguins have feathers?

While I will admit there is alot of gaps in the evolutionary theory, I believe the horse has rock hard individuals that show a more complete line of succession.

If it is God-Guided, then the "dude" screwed up with the dinosaurs didn't he? And that would go against the belief that he "never" screws up.

As you can tell I sit on the fence.

But hardened facts speak louder than any handed down re-edited and retranslated story from some foreign country....Germs exist,causing sickness(instead of evil spirits) and the earth ain't flat nor does the sun rotate around it.
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I kinda like something Robin Williams once said.

"Intelligent design - why did he put the pleasure garden by the sewer outfall"

I may not have gotten the quote exactly but........
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nibs wrote: Pardon me for putting something flip into a serious discussion.



:137: Is there a serious discussion going on somewhere around here ?
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Another nail in the coffin....as if one was needed.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... verse.html
"The DNA Code" - New Research Shows Life Hardwired in the Universe

A recent mathematical analysis says that life as we know it is written into the laws of reality. DNA is built from a set of twenty amino acids - the first ten of those can create simple prebiotic life, and now it seems that those ten are thermodynamically destined to occur wherever they can.

For those unfamiliar with thermodynamics, it's the Big Brother of all energy equations and science itself. You can apply quantum mechanics at certain scales, and Newtonian mechanics work at the right speeds, but if Thermodynamics says something then everyone listens. An energy analysis by Professors Pudritz and Higgs of McMaster University shows that the first ten amino acids are likely to form at relatively low temperatures and pressures, and the calculated odds of formation match the concentrations of these life-chemicals found in meteorite samples.

They also match those in simulations of early Earth, and most critically, those simulations were performed by other people. The implications are staggering: good news for anyone worried about how we're alone, and bad news for anyone who demands some kind of "Designer" to put life together - it seems that physics can assemble the organic jigsaw all by itself, thank you very much, and has probably done so throughout space since the beginning of everything.

The study indicates that you don't need a miracle to arrive at the chemical cocktail for early life, just a decently large asteroid with the right components. That's all. The entire universe could be stuffed with life, from the earliest prebiotic protein-a-likes to fully DNAed descendants. The path from one to the other is long, but we've had thirteen and a half billion years so far and it's happened at least once.

The other ten amino acids aren't as easy to form, but they'll still turn up - and the process of "stepwise evolution" means that once the simpler systems work, they can grab the rarer "epic drops" of more sophisticated chemicals as they occur - kind of a World of Lifecraft except you literally get a life when you play. And once even the most sophisticated structure is part of a replicating organism, there's plenty to go round.

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I wonder if it was the Tagish Lake rock that assisted with this inevitable revelation?
Clues to origin of life revealed in Tagish Lake meteorite
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