Gay rights and the church

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5VP wrote:So... I can now, instead of forming a legal corporation or business and doing honest work, just marry the first rich guy that'll "have" me and thus just have marital "rights' to half his pensions and stuff?? SWEET!!! Taking one for the team can be quite profitable and who cares about the cost to the taxpayers. Hey millionaire rich guys in the audience; I'm available!!

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5VP wrote: Taking one for the team
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In alberta there are doctors treating homosexuality as a mental condition.
http://www.theprovince.com/health/Alta+ ... story.html
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cutter7 wrote:In alberta there are doctors treating homosexuality as a mental condition.
http://www.theprovince.com/health/Alta+ ... story.html



Unbelievable!! Yet, my stint in Alberta shouldn't find me surprised as I would venture to say, they likely have the most Christians per capita than any other province.
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coffeeFreak wrote:Unbelievable!! Yet, my stint in Alberta shouldn't find me surprised as I would venture to say, they likely have the most Christians per capita than any other province.

Sorry, but you're dead wrong. The only provinces/territories with less Christians per capita than Alberta are BC and the Yukon.

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Thanks Glacier, I wondered about that when I made that statement...probably because my experience was based on small town AB, and at the time Alberta seemed to be strongly influenced by evangelical christians.
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Glacier wrote:
coffeeFreak wrote:Unbelievable!! Yet, my stint in Alberta shouldn't find me surprised as I would venture to say, they likely have the most Christians per capita than any other province.

Sorry, but you're dead wrong. The only provinces/territories with less Christians per capita than Alberta are BC and the Yukon.

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Your chart is wrong. NL is mostly catholic, in other words far from Christians :eyeballspin:
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Hmmm wrote:Your chart is wrong. NL is mostly catholic, in other words far from Christians :eyeballspin:

Ignoring this ^ rubbish... with an actual fact about the canadian 2001 census (religion question)
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Hmmm wrote:
Glacier wrote:
coffeeFreak wrote:Unbelievable!! Yet, my stint in Alberta shouldn't find me surprised as I would venture to say, they likely have the most Christians per capita than any other province.

Sorry, but you're dead wrong. The only provinces/territories with less Christians per capita than Alberta are BC and the Yukon.

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Your chart is wrong. NL is mostly catholic, in other words far from Christians :eyeballspin:


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^ Isn't that what unclemarty's post was about?... viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38784#p1198792

As for Catholics in Newfoundland, they are only 37% catholic. Here's what Canada looks like if you take out all the Catholics.

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Why would we need to take the catholics out exactly?
They are christians also.
Any religion that believes that Jesus Christ was the son of God and died for their sins is technically a christian religion.
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Of course Catholics are Christians. I was just just playing Hmmm's silly game in order point out that he was mistaken about Newfoundland being all Catholic.
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cutter7 wrote:In alberta there are doctors treating homosexuality as a mental condition.
http://www.theprovince.com/health/Alta+ ... story.html


Hmmm, not much reaction from that post... makes me wonder what people are actually bashing here.
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There we go with the "bashing" misnomer again.

There is a shocking story in the news this weekend about an 11 yr old California girl being killed in an after school brawl. Are this child's rights to not be killed in a bullying after school fight any less important than a gay person's?

Why is it now only considered "bashing" when it specifically involves gays and is now a hate crime legally different from bullying or common assault laws which used to apply to everyone equally??

Do gay rights now supercede specific rights of all other humans?

How do gays as a culture, gender, race or society or whatever they are, actually suffer without these specific gay rights ?

Would gay rights have had held elevated importance for gay Jews during WW2 than the rest of the non gay Jews who were exterminated? Would having gay rights then have kept the Nazis from killing gay Jews?

Whatever happened to everyone having the same good old fashioned "human rights"?

A set of rights based wholly on sexual acts is not a human rights accomplishment if it serves to further alienate and divide an already wayward human society.

I believe that, it's time we started learning about our "wrongs" as well as making demands for more equal human rights.

I believe the gay rights issue has run it's inevitable course and, is the reason why gay activists now feel the need to focus on and attack the church base of the legal system as represented by the Mosaic laws.
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