Are atheists against religion or against Christianity?

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soulra wrote:But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. — Luke 19:27





Yabut.... Yabut.... he didn't really mean that, so you can't criticize. He really meant.... well we'er not sure what he really meant so you can't criticize. Just Believe!!!
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zzontar wrote: and the originator of the Unitarian church was a Catholic priest...


A heretical catholic priest.....Burnt on a stake.

'The concept of Unitarianism generally looks to a Catholic priest, Michael Servetus, as a spiritual originator. Servetus was born in Spain in 1511 and died in 1553, after attacking the doctrines of the Trinity. Unitarianism is a doctrinal system characterized chiefly by a belief in the unipersonality of God and the normal humanity of Jesus, as contrasted with the Trinity and the eternal deity (divinity) of Jesus. Most Unitarians I've spoken with reject the divinity of Jesus, but do recognize him (Jesus) as a great moral teacher'

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Unitarians-9 ... theism.htm



Also....
Humanist: 46.1%
Earth/Nature centered: 19.0%
Theist: 13.0%
Christian: 9.5%
Mystic: 6.2%
Buddhist: 3.6%
Jewish: 1.3%
Hindu: 0.4%
Moslem: 0.1%
Other: 13.3%


From what I can see, it's a long way from the creationuts and rapture readies. They are actually pretty wishy-washy, and completely harmless. It's spirituality-lite.
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What? No witty retorts?
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Thanks for the link, Soulra.
When I started to read the post, and saw that the question posed to the 'expert', I thought:
"Oh, here we go, I'm going to be wailing and gnashing my teeth in hell, again."
Far from it!
Jon Bond actually used the following statement[of unknown source] to outline his views on atheism, and what he understands atheism to be:

One very important feature of the atheistic position is the fact that we are dealing entirely with claims -- claims that various deities exist. In discussing claims, it is always the person making the claim who is responsible for providing evidence and strong argument. The person listening to the claim need not make any argument at all. And the listener does not need to disprove a claim in order to reject it. If the person making the claim fails to make a convincing case, the listener rightly rejects the claim as falsehood (or suspends judgment, based upon the strength of the claim). In either event, the listener ends up lacking a belief in the object of the claim. While the world's atheists have assembled a vast and powerful arsenal of anti-theistic arguments, it is never the atheist's responsibility to prove or disprove anything. That job belongs to the person making the theist claim.

And in lieu of hearing a convincing argument for the existence of gods, we remain without theistic beliefs: We remain atheists.


Jon Bond, of the Unitarian Universalist Church, makes notable mention that a hefty portion of his Church's membership is drawn from what he could term as, 'agnostic atheists'. He also states:
Jon Bond wrote:Remember, I'm one of over 250,000 people in our association and, if you ask another UU (Unitarian Universalist), you may get a different (but, hopefully, not conflicting) answer.


Very interesting. His mere acceptance of the atheistic position speaks volumes for this man. Not only that, but if you accept the definition that he has borrowed from, then you should have absolutely no problem answering the question posed in the title of the OP:

"Are atheists against religion or against Christianity?"
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The title of the thread is kinda like asking
"when you hit your spouse do you use your fist or a bat?"
Why would you think an atheist needs to be against anything or any one?
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nibs wrote:The title of the thread is kinda like asking
"when you hit your spouse do you use your fist or a bat?"
Why would you think an atheist needs to be against anything or any one?


Well there are those atheists that are ONLY against Christianity because it has been personally revealed to them that Christianity is the only CAP-E-TOLL TEA True religion. :spinball:
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Atheists aren't against anything. They just don't believe in it. There is no emotion or much thought put into not believing in something. The facts just haven't presented themselves to bring us to the logical conclusion that god(s) exist.
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Okay seriously, there are militant atheists that are very much against any form of religion/superstition.

But fear not, the universe was made with you in mind*, so:

Atheism cannot be against anything, it is a negative position.

*props to Hitchens
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Hello, What wouldn't happen if you didn't think atheists weren't negative?
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nibs wrote:Hello, What wouldn't happen if you didn't think atheists weren't negative?


Zero wouldn't be divided and thus the universe wouldn't be sucked down the drain pipe.
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I read that according to the prevailing theories of quantum mechanics and astrophysics, the suckosity of the drain pipe is so intense that even silly ideas can't escape its pull. I wonder if that holds true for really, really silly ideas? I mean is there some sort of proportional relationship between silly and suck? Especially seeing that some of the ideas in this thread are so far past silly that the light from silly won't reach them for ten million years. I suppose we might never know. We could say "Only God knows" but that wouldn't sit too well with some. We could say "Nobody knows" to keep them happy but then God wouldn't be all-knowing and that won't wash with the other side. I suppose the only thing we can say with any measure of confidence is "Pass the beer nuts".
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flüffy wrote:I read that according to the prevailing theories of quantum mechanics and astrophysics, the suckosity of the drain pipe is so intense that even silly ideas can't escape its pull.

Stephen Hawkin's theorises that 'information' is capable of escaping the 'pull' at the event horizon of a black hole(or something like that :eyeballspin: ), ....... so is there hope for your theory? :spinball:
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I suggest we classify the two kinds of holes - Black holes would be 'B holes', and the other would be 'silly A holes'
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Doesn't surprize anyone who reads the bible or other scripture. That is all foretold. Come on, you atheists need to catch up. :200:

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