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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/ ... ml?ref=rss

Evolution classes optional under proposed Alberta law


Education Minister Dave Hancock supports a new bill that would require schools to notify parents in advance about subject matter that deals 'explicitly with religion, sexuality or sexual orientation.'
A controversial Alberta bill will enshrine into law the rights of parents to pull their children out of classes discussing the topics of evolution and homosexuality.

The new rules, which would require schools to notify parents in advance of "subject-matter that deals explicitly with religion, sexuality or sexual orientation," is buried in a bill that extends human rights to homosexuals. Parents can ask for their child to be excluded from the discussion.
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. :ohmygod: That'll have some of our B.C. posters slavering at the mouth. One positive outcome is that Newfies might get a break in being the butt(undeservedly) of Canadian jokes at last.
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Aren't those parents setting their kids up to fail in post-secondary if they don't complete the curriculum? Or do they think that their adult children will be allowed to walk out of university classes and not answer questions on exams if they disagree with the material and still pass? :137:
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Since when is teaching evolution considered religious studies? How about if parents want to teach religious themes to their kids they do it out of the secular public school system?
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IMO

I will be the one to teach MY kids what I feel is best for them...not the school.
Should it not be the parenteral choice?
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Interesting how we have this in Alberta and the Corren Agreement in B.C.
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Puffy wrote:IMO, I will be the one to teach MY kids what I feel is best for them...not the school. Should it not be the parenteral choice?


There is a valid concern that parents want some control over the upbringing of their own children. However, we do not live in a vacuum (as some dysfunctional parents and families would prefer), and society is becoming increasingly interdependent as our population increases, and the planet, in effect shrinks. We will either start to learn respect our differences and to value diversity, or we will become a society of clones or we will kill each other off in such numbers that we will eventually be returned to the times of tribes.

Unfortunately, given the dysfunction, fear, intolerance and hate that already exists, we cannot depend on individuals or individual families for progressive evolution. It has to be a collective effort and this requires the involvement of government, the legal and educational systems and of society as a collective whole. If some children need to be educated and challenged not to be as ignorant, bigoted and hate-filled as their parents, then for the greater good and well-being of everyone so be it

writerdave wrote: Interesting how we have this in Alberta and the Corren Agreement in B.C.


So imagine your parents didn't want you to learn about evolution, but after you graduated high school you discovered you wanted to be a scientist. How would that work? Would you have to go back and do school all over again?

So imagine your parents didn't want you to learn the truth about homosexuals, but after you graduated high school you discovered you didn't want to be a bigot anymore. How would that work? Would you have to go back and do growing up all over again?

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Born_again wrote: One positive outcome is that Newfies might get a break in being the butt(undeservedly) of Canadian jokes at last.


At least until after the electorate of this province re-elects the criminal Campbell for a third term in our next election. We won't be able to laugh at anybody after that.
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In a way, I hope someone else does form government, if nothing more than to stop seeing you write the word "criminal" in every third post.
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writerdave wrote:In a way, I hope someone else does form government, if nothing more than to stop seeing you write the word "criminal" in every third post.


That would make me so happy as well :130:

(although we need to be prepared to call the next government on it if they resort to criminal behavior as well)
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I hope one day they'll change the school system so it only teaches essentials like math, english, science and other subjects and leave Jesus, Koran, politics, and homosexuality out of school.
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writerdave wrote:In a way, I hope someone else does form government, if nothing more than to stop seeing you write the word "criminal" in every third post.

You know how the mantra goes, "If you say something long enough and loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it."
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CaptainAwesome wrote:I hope one day they'll change the school system so it only teaches essentials like math, english, science and other subjects and leave Jesus, Koran, politics, and homosexuality out of school.


So we could leave the teaching of subjects like Jesus, the Quran, politics and homosexuality up to ignorant, dysfunctional, hate-filled bigots ? I would personally rather see these topics discussed in a structured and moderated arena where all positions were challenged and students were challenged to develop critical thinking skills and independent thought.

Unfortunately, we now live in a world where the interdependency of society’s members needs to be acknowledged and recognized, and it is an issue that needs to be addressed in a collective manner. You really think this will all sort itself out by leaving it to individual decision? You have heard of the survivalist militia groups already being formed, and the resurgence of the Klu Klux Klan and Neo-Nazi groups? Ya, this move back to the tribe mentality seems so promising.

The First Nations people correctly recognized that it took a community to raise a child. In our society this truth is greater than ever. It’s too bad we are so self-absorbed and self-serving to recognize something so obvious. We will pay for our indifference and apathy. In fact, we already are.
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Glacier wrote:
writerdave wrote:In a way, I hope someone else does form government, if nothing more than to stop seeing you write the word "criminal" in every third post.

You know how the mantra goes, "If you say something long enough and loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it."


:dyinglaughing: No doubt. Look how well it has worked for Gordo.

(I bet you believe the stuff he says on TV)
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I'll have to quit this thread now as I've found myself in the awkward position of agreeing entirely with SL, 'cept maybe for the cheesy political cheap-shots :dyinglaughing:
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