Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
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Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
Lifted from: http://www.singlesplus.net/fabian.htm
..trying to define the label of gaining "Democratic Fascism" by way of Fabian Fascism.
Seemed to fit Stevens frequent comments and prior siggy about the need for us to "evolve" politically. Hmmmm ;-)
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"The term Fabian comes from the name of a Roman General by the name of Fabius Maximus. Fabius Maximus was famous for his battles against the armies of Hannibal. Instead of a major frontal battle, Fabius beat him by small debilitating skirmishes that ate him one bite at a time -- small incremental wins; not a sudden overwhelming victory.
His name was used when the Fabian society was formed in England in 1884. This was a society to cause the British society to gradually change to Socialism, not by revolution, but by evolution: slow, unnoticeable, incremental steps.
Like boiling a frog. You can put a frog in a pan of cool water, and put it on slow heat. If you put him in hot water, he would jump right out. But in the cool water he is content to feel the warmth as the heat is added gradually. He never does jump out. The water finally reaches boiling, and the frog dies before he realizes what happened.
So when I say that our freedom is being slowly eroded by Fabian Fascism, (Edit: or Fabian Socialism??? Nab) I mean that the government is slowly, almost imperceptibly taking control, not by confiscating the assets, but by making rules and laws and court decisions to take control of society and of our freedoms, including the freedom to practice religion (Edit: or not? Nab) as we choose."
..trying to define the label of gaining "Democratic Fascism" by way of Fabian Fascism.
Seemed to fit Stevens frequent comments and prior siggy about the need for us to "evolve" politically. Hmmmm ;-)
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"The term Fabian comes from the name of a Roman General by the name of Fabius Maximus. Fabius Maximus was famous for his battles against the armies of Hannibal. Instead of a major frontal battle, Fabius beat him by small debilitating skirmishes that ate him one bite at a time -- small incremental wins; not a sudden overwhelming victory.
His name was used when the Fabian society was formed in England in 1884. This was a society to cause the British society to gradually change to Socialism, not by revolution, but by evolution: slow, unnoticeable, incremental steps.
Like boiling a frog. You can put a frog in a pan of cool water, and put it on slow heat. If you put him in hot water, he would jump right out. But in the cool water he is content to feel the warmth as the heat is added gradually. He never does jump out. The water finally reaches boiling, and the frog dies before he realizes what happened.
So when I say that our freedom is being slowly eroded by Fabian Fascism, (Edit: or Fabian Socialism??? Nab) I mean that the government is slowly, almost imperceptibly taking control, not by confiscating the assets, but by making rules and laws and court decisions to take control of society and of our freedoms, including the freedom to practice religion (Edit: or not? Nab) as we choose."
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Re: Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
I didn't know you felt that way Nab, perhaps you could give me some examples of where the government has eroded some of our freedoms and/or ability to practise religion? I'd be genuinely interested to know.
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Hellomynameis wrote:I didn't know you felt that way Nab, perhaps you could give me some examples of where the government has eroded some of our freedoms and/or ability to practise religion? I'd be genuinely interested to know.
What way is it you seem to feel I felt Hello? LOL

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Re: Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
Nabcom wrote:What way is it you seem to feel I felt Hello? LOL
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Nabcom wrote:...
So when I say that our freedom is being slowly eroded by Fabian Fascism, (Edit: or Fabian Socialism??? Nab) I mean that the government is slowly, almost imperceptibly taking control, not by confiscating the assets, but by making rules and laws and court decisions to take control of society and of our freedoms, including the freedom to practice religion (Edit: or not? Nab) as we choose.
Ohhhhhhhh, never mind.....
I didn't know the above was copypasta
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Re: Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
Hellomynameis wrote:Nabcom wrote:What way is it you seem to feel I felt Hello? LOL
nabNabcom wrote:...
So when I say that our freedom is being slowly eroded by Fabian Fascism, (Edit: or Fabian Socialism??? Nab) I mean that the government is slowly, almost imperceptibly taking control, not by confiscating the assets, but by making rules and laws and court decisions to take control of society and of our freedoms, including the freedom to practice religion (Edit: or not? Nab) as we choose.
Other than the two edit insertions hello, that is part of the quote from the link provided. did you not read it?
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Nabcom wrote:Hellomynameis wrote:Nabcom wrote:What way is it you seem to feel I felt Hello? LOL
nabNabcom wrote:...
So when I say that our freedom is being slowly eroded by Fabian Fascism, (Edit: or Fabian Socialism??? Nab) I mean that the government is slowly, almost imperceptibly taking control, not by confiscating the assets, but by making rules and laws and court decisions to take control of society and of our freedoms, including the freedom to practice religion (Edit: or not? Nab) as we choose.
Other than the two edit insertions hello, that is part of the quote from the link provided. did you not read it?
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No I didn't

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Re: Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
Hellomynameis wrote:Nabcom wrote:What way is it you seem to feel I felt Hello? LOL
nabNabcom wrote:...
So when I say that our freedom is being slowly eroded by Fabian Fascism, (Edit: or Fabian Socialism??? Nab) I mean that the government is slowly, almost imperceptibly taking control, not by confiscating the assets, but by making rules and laws and court decisions to take control of society and of our freedoms, including the freedom to practice religion (Edit: or not? Nab) as we choose.
Ohhhhhhhh, never mind.....
I didn't know the above was copypasta
LOL, thash OK, is mine fault. I jus noticed I left out the ending quoteation mark I'll go back and fixin it.
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Well at least your thread is getting some calorie free bumpage, XD
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So... Do you smell any Fabian fascism/socialism at work around here?
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Re: Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
Hellomynameis wrote:Well at least your thread is getting some calorie free bumpage, XD
thanks for that. I expected Steven in here with bells on by now LOL.
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Hellomynameis wrote:So... Do you smell any Fabian fascism/socialism at work around here?
ooooo, loads of it ;-)
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Re: Fabian Fascism, or Fabian Socialism. Do we have a choice?
Nabcom wrote:Hellomynameis wrote:So... Do you smell any Fabian fascism/socialism at work around here?
ooooo, loads of it ;-)
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hey, gimme a break LOL. All I did was ask an innocent question. ;-)
Hhheeeeeyyyy Steven! Helllllllllp!!!!! Al C.? anybody?
Hhheeeeeyyyy Steven! Helllllllllp!!!!! Al C.? anybody?
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Nabcom wrote:hey, gimme a break LOL. All I did was ask an innocent question. ;-)
Hhheeeeeyyyy Steven! Helllllllllp!!!!! Al C.? anybody?
You asked a question?!
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Hellomynameis wrote:Nabcom wrote:hey, gimme a break LOL. All I did was ask an innocent question. ;-)
Hhheeeeeyyyy Steven! Helllllllllp!!!!! Al C.? anybody?
You asked a question?!
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