An apostle's Council to youth

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Here are some words of wisdom that all youth should hear. This from a living apostle of the Lord.
http://www.meridianmagazine.com/youtube ... unsel.html
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Good video, except for all the religous stuff.
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It is the religion forum.
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Maybe they need to make a new forum for recruitment. Membership must be down.
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Nope... continues to grow by about half a million a year.
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There are way more gullible people than I thought.
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I have no problem with religion or religous people as long as they respect my view as much as I respect theirs. I am human and sometimes I may get a little out of hand. It's nothing personal.
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WTHWYT wrote:I have no problem with religion or religous people as long as they respect my view as much as I respect theirs. I am human and sometimes I may get a little out of hand. It's nothing personal.

I feel that way about religious people too. This, of course, includes athiests who are quickly turning themselves into a religion.
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Mr. Personality wrote:
WTHWYT wrote:I have no problem with religion or religous people as long as they respect my view as much as I respect theirs. I am human and sometimes I may get a little out of hand. It's nothing personal.

I feel that way about religious people too. This, of course, includes athiests who are quickly turning themselves into a religion.

Atheism, by definition, cannot be a religion.
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No, but they're trying.
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Thanks for the civil discourse. I hope it can continue.

I'm not sure that atheism can not be a religion... according to this definition it may well be.

A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power, God or gods, or ultimate truth.[1]

The last qualifier...ultimate truth is what atheists search for as much as believers. I for one (having a degree in the sciences) believe that TRUE religion and TRUE science agrees completely.
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Atheists do not believe in a higher power.
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Higher power, God or God's OR ultimate truth.

It is the ultimate truth part of the definition that could pigeon hole atheists as a religion... that word OR means it doesn't have to be a higher power... it could be ultimate truth.
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What does ultimate truth mean?
"Every dollar you spend is a vote for what you believe in."
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Big ned wrote:Higher power, God or God's OR ultimate truth.

It is the ultimate truth part of the definition that could pigeon hole atheists as a religion... that word OR means it doesn't have to be a higher power... it could be ultimate truth.

Nice twist but it means nothing. I doubt it could be said that all atheists are seeking ultimate truth, whatever that it is.
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