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Phoenix Within wrote:Actually I don't think Buddhists have ever killed anyone (that I can think of). Aren't they pacifists?

Jesus was a pacifist too, but you wouldn't know it looking at some of his followers...
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Glacier wrote:Jesus was a pacifist too, but you wouldn't know it looking at some of his followers...

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Japanese are Buddhists and they attacked Pearl Harbour??? So I think killed someone? Does that count?

Phoenix Within wrote:
grammafreddy wrote:We do???????? It's just a bunch of scribbles to me.

Hence the symbolism part. :D

And when was there ever a time in history when people weren't killing each other in the name of god?? Or Allah, or Buddha, or the Prophet or whatever .....

Last Thursday between 7:15 and 7:16 pm. Hey you asked...

Actually I don't think Buddhists have ever killed anyone (that I can think of). Aren't they pacifists?
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averagejoe wrote:Japanese are Buddhists and they attacked Pearl Harbour??? So I think killed someone? Does that count?

Phoenix Within wrote:
grammafreddy wrote:We do???????? It's just a bunch of scribbles to me.

Hence the symbolism part. :D

And when was there ever a time in history when people weren't killing each other in the name of god?? Or Allah, or Buddha, or the Prophet or whatever .....

Last Thursday between 7:15 and 7:16 pm. Hey you asked...

Actually I don't think Buddhists have ever killed anyone (that I can think of). Aren't they pacifists?

Actually I believe the majority of Japanese at the time followed Shintoism, not Buddhism.
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Neb's, Is that an off shoot of Buddhism??? How could we tell what pilots were which religion???


Nebula wrote:
averagejoe wrote:Japanese are Buddhists and they attacked Pearl Harbour??? So I think killed someone? Does that count?

Phoenix Within wrote:
grammafreddy wrote:We do???????? It's just a bunch of scribbles to me.

Hence the symbolism part. :D

And when was there ever a time in history when people weren't killing each other in the name of god?? Or Allah, or Buddha, or the Prophet or whatever .....

Last Thursday between 7:15 and 7:16 pm. Hey you asked...

Actually I don't think Buddhists have ever killed anyone (that I can think of). Aren't they pacifists?

Actually I believe the majority of Japanese at the time followed Shintoism, not Buddhism.
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averagejoe wrote:Japanese are Buddhists and they attacked Pearl Harbour??? So I think killed someone? Does that count?

No. Their reasons for attacking Pearl Harbor were political, not religious.

Some Japanese are Christians too.

Shintoism is almost exclusively a Japanese religion with origins in prehistoric times. Buddhism same to Japan in the sixth century. So no, Shintoism is not an offshoot of Buddhism.
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Phoenix Within wrote:Their reasons for attacking Pearl Harbor were political, not religious.


Western forces in the middle east are not there motivated by religious reasons either regardless of what twisted spin might be attached to some scripture refferences inscribed on scopes. I don't personally think this should have been done either but really:

would the presence or absence of these inscriptions affect the marksmanship of the user? - no

would their presence or absence actually have an effect on whether or not the next generation of west hating islamofacists join "the cause" or not? - no

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    1) Build schools so the Afghans learn to read.
    2) Eventually, you get them to learn to read and write English as well.
    3) Put the U.S. solders in harms way so they get captured and their guns confiscated.
    4) Plant Bibles on these soldiers, so that the Taliban confiscates these as well.
    5) Encourage the increased production and use mind altering drugs so they will eventually get some crazy notion to read the writing on the scopes.


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unclemarty wrote:
Phoenix Within wrote:Their reasons for attacking Pearl Harbor were political, not religious.


Western forces in the middle east are not there motivated by religious reasons either regardless of what twisted spin might be attached to some scripture refferences inscribed on scopes.

True.

I don't personally think this should have been done either but really:


would the presence or absence of these inscriptions affect the marksmanship of the user? - no

True.

would their presence or absence actually have an effect on whether or not the next generation of west hating islamofacists join "the cause" or not? - no

Maybe not, but it certainly will, at minimum, be a piece of information tucked away in their propaganda folder. I see this 'bible scope' issue being tucked somewhere between being a non-issue or harmful to our goals in Afghanistan.





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Wouldn't it be cool if the text on the gunsights was

"Thou shalt not kill"
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Nibs wrote:Wouldn't it be cool if the text on the gunsights was

"Thou shalt not kill"


That has got to be the best post I've seen for a long time. :sunshine:
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"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. Your Christians are nothing like your Christ." - Gandhi


That's an excellent quote...
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