Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Is there a god? What is the meaning of life?
donna elaine
Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: Dec 20th, 2009, 1:05 pm

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by donna elaine »

I have recently begun reading a book titled The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. It makes a very good case for atheism and in fact Dawkins' goal is to enocurage people to 'come out' in their atheism, as he believes that many people are closeted. He quotes John Stuart Mill from the nineteenth century: "The world would be astonished if it knew how great a proportion of its brightest ornaments, of those most distinguished even in popular estimation for wisdom and virtue, are complete sceptics of religion."
bcbudrockz69
Übergod
Posts: 1445
Joined: Feb 26th, 2009, 10:57 am

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by bcbudrockz69 »

no, its a good point you make bv and 1 i believe in , its the same for the goverment in power to not prosacute one their own , or the cops not demanding the bad cops be held to the same standerd as the common folk.

the catholic church has so much sway in the states now , that the iraq and afgan war is tied directly
to the catholic god winning over the muslim god, its like a hollywood movie being played out by real ppl.


ultimatly someones going to have to take the pope to court
User avatar
Tumult
Board Meister
Posts: 479
Joined: Dec 22nd, 2006, 9:38 am

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by Tumult »

donna elaine wrote:I have recently begun reading a book titled The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. It makes a very good case for atheism and in fact Dawkins' goal is to enocurage people to 'come out' in their atheism, as he believes that many people are closeted. He quotes John Stuart Mill from the nineteenth century: "The world would be astonished if it knew how great a proportion of its brightest ornaments, of those most distinguished even in popular estimation for wisdom and virtue, are complete sceptics of religion."


Skepticism is one thing but Dawkins takes it one further, he seems almost a cult leader of an anti-religious crusade:
"...my more global purpose is a battle against religion..."

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/23/evol ... deniers/3/
“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it”
-Max Planck
User avatar
JLives
Buddha of the Board
Posts: 19782
Joined: Nov 27th, 2004, 10:53 am

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by JLives »

donna elaine wrote:I have recently begun reading a book titled The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. It makes a very good case for atheism and in fact Dawkins' goal is to enocurage people to 'come out' in their atheism, as he believes that many people are closeted. He quotes John Stuart Mill from the nineteenth century: "The world would be astonished if it knew how great a proportion of its brightest ornaments, of those most distinguished even in popular estimation for wisdom and virtue, are complete sceptics of religion."


I've read it twice now. It's a very good read. He makes a very solid case that there is likely no supernatural power or creator. I think if more understood it they would put more stock into saving the world we have now. I speak to many moms who have the attitude that it will be ok in heaven so who cares about this world. I just can't comprehend where they are coming from.
"Every dollar you spend is a vote for what you believe in."
"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good."
User avatar
zzontar
Guru
Posts: 8868
Joined: Oct 12th, 2006, 9:38 pm

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by zzontar »

^^ I've met many non-religious people who have the "I'll do what what I want 'cause you only live once" attitude. That's not good either.
They say you can't believe everything they say.
User avatar
BVulgaris
Board Meister
Posts: 623
Joined: Jan 16th, 2010, 1:46 pm

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by BVulgaris »

you are right... the live, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die philosophy is bad for logical reasons. It does not recognize a tomorrow.

The greatest adaptation of life is to plan for the future.
User avatar
BVulgaris
Board Meister
Posts: 623
Joined: Jan 16th, 2010, 1:46 pm

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by BVulgaris »

"For Catholics, a Door to Absolution Is Reopened "
By PAUL VITELLO
Published: February 9, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/nyreg ... gence.html


just thought i'd post that one... came up in another thread.
User avatar
Mr Danksworth
Lord of the Board
Posts: 3146
Joined: Mar 7th, 2006, 8:38 am

Re: Vatican officials defend Pope on abuse

Post by Mr Danksworth »

The catholic church, 2000 years of molesting children.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ1_aQz6 ... =autoshare
Nothing on the Internet is so serious it can't be laughed at, and nothing is as laughable as people who think otherwise.

Return to “Religion & Spirituality”