My View On Life

[Viprium]

I myself am personally a Christian but I use to be an atheist when I was a bit younger. I know how easy it is to make fun Jesus and Christianity as a whole. I also know how easy it is to believe Christianity isn't the truth. I was all big on the conspiracy theories when I was 16 as well. Now I'm not going to get too preachy but I do feel to many people misinterepret the Bible and look at certain scriptures with a very black and white point of view and end up believing Christians don't or do have certain morals that they may or may not have.


Alot of people may also think that the Bible couldn't be the truth because of certain scientific information but it doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that evolution, for example, isn't the truth. It just doesn't go in to stuff like that. When you think about it though, why should it? Were people of that time aware of science?


Anyways, I'm a believer in aliens and UFO's. I however, don't believe you can get really much of any factual information about them on the internet. Now I know alot of Christians didn't believe in UFO's until '09 when the pope started talking about them but it does speak of flying chariots in the Bible and I guess that would be the only way for people of that day to describe a UFO. I personally believe too many Christians are to narrow minded and believe this human race we have here on earth is some extra special thing and that were the only people that are intelligent, the only people that know of God and the only people who have the chance to go to heaven. What makes you think theres no aliens in heaven?


My beliefs are that were just one of the few planets who has intelligent life and I actually wouldn't be surprised if advanced alien civilizations were closer to God as a whole than this civilization is. I've noticed alot of people that believe in aliens don't believe in the Bible and vice versa. I find that stupid. Another one of my beliefs is that there is sort of like two realms of reality. You would have the spiritual realm which would consist of heaven, hell and God knows what else and than you have the physical realm which would just consist of this universe and everything in it. I also believe the spiritual world interacts with the physical realm in fairly subtle ways.

I think alot of people these days get caught up with reading about lies and disinformation on the internet. Like the illuminati for example. Do people really think the real information on a "secret society" is going to be on the internet which is regulated and censored by the people that run the world? Now I'm sure there is a group of people like the illuminati that try and depopulate the world and worship the devil, I just don't think they go by the free masons, the illuminati or anything else on they call this group of people on the internet. People need to realize that factual classified information wouldn't be on the internet. Conspiracy theories have the word conspiracy in it for a reason. Anyways that just my view on life. Criticize, comment or what ever.

[Born_again]

Viprium, you do realise that anyone that states "I used to be a atheist, but ...." were anything but, don't you? And, you do realise that there are very, very few rational thinkers that would actually 'buy' that line based upon precedence and a preponderance of ulterior motives common to the fundy mindset? Nice try!!

[xjeepguy]

Were people of that time aware of science?

As early as 3150 BC there is proof that the Egyptians were excavating dinosaur fossils and I would classify that as 'science' .

[zzontar]

Were people of that time aware of science?

As early as 3150 BC there is proof that the Egyptians were excavating dinosaur fossils and I would classify that as 'science' .

Would you mind posting a link to that? I can't recall dinosaurs being portrayed in any hieroglyphics nor being mentioned in ancient Egyptian history.

[zzontar]

Viprium, you do realise that anyone that states "I used to be a atheist, but ...." were anything but, don't you? And, you do realise that there are very, very few rational thinkers that would actually 'buy' that line based upon precedence and a preponderance of ulterior motives common to the fundy mindset? Nice try!!

What an absurd statement. Google "A.J. Ayer" for starters.

[xjeepguy]

Would you mind posting a link to that? I can't recall dinosaurs being portrayed in any hieroglyphics nor being mentioned in ancient Egyptian history.

It was actually on the History Channel or History I channel this past week , they do repeat shows often . Quite interesting .
I will find the name/number of the episode for you . Its probably available for d/l somewhere .

I just asked the Mrs. and she said the show is called Secrets of Archaeology and is on History International

Come on people , I can't be the only person that watched that episode . I just came from their website and it doesn't list past shows either .

[5VP]

Considering the scales of time which have preceded us currently living in the here and now; the knowledge of the past which we can glean from remaining physical evidence or the the surviving written documentation amounts to the Coles notes version of what the original knowledge was or intent of recording the knowledge may have been.

We are, in essence, blind mice groping around in a zoo who then make definitive statements about what we believe we have discovered and in some cases argue these beliefs to the death.

Even in this forum there are threads which reminisce about persons and events and things that once happened or existed in Kelowna short decades ago that are now largely forgotten. How then, can the entirety of the past of the entire planet be definitively certain?

Who's version of remembrance can we all accept as a gospel truth when even our best scientific theories are continually being adjusted or even entirely upset?

Religions have done a thorough job of inserting, insisting on and enforcing their own parameters of belief into what the truth may or may not have been. These pseudoreligioknowledge fabrications of man can be a gross corruption of what the original intent of the message(s) may have been.

The truth(s) we seek is/are out there but it may not be equally relevant to all who seek it. Hence the endless conflicts and debates.

Life on this particular blue marble rolling it's way through an infinity of time and space would be quite boring if everything always made sense all the time.

I believe that, for all of us, the best guidelines for a successful sojourn through life can be distilled down into the ten simple rules passed down to Moses.

We are all witnesses to what happens when when we choose to act as individuals and color outside outside of those lines for personal gain over our fellow man.

I tend to lean towards the Gnostic methodology of knowing the truth we individually need and which is always available if one seeks to "...know thyself..." first and understand that "all is one".

We might all be able to get along if knowing yourself leads to another great truth generally common in most religions; "...be kind and do unto others as you would have them do unto you"...

And take naps...

Too easy??

[zzontar]

Everything on google having to do with the first dinosaur bone excavations seems to be quite later in time than the ancient Egyptians.

[xjeepguy]

Everything on google having to do with the first dinosaur bone excavations seems to be quite later in time than the ancient Egyptians.

Understood , I'm snooping around and trying to dig up some info on the program we saw. It's so easy to see things on the internet and just reference a link . Not as easy furnishing info on a past show when you saw it on TV I will find it , but important football games are on right now

When my mind is in " there will be a test on this later mode " I pay far more attn to things . But it was in " couch sleepy mode " when we watched it

[xjeepguy]

zzontar , check your PM box , thanks .

[Queen K]

Everything on google having to do with the first dinosaur bone excavations seems to be quite later in time than the ancient Egyptians.

We have a book about a German archeologist who made an astounding discovery of dinosaur fossils, something similar to T-rex or Albertosaurus, in the Egyptian desert. Those dino fossils were crated up and taken to Germany where they were destroyed by bombings during one of the Wars. Mr. QK has read that book and I plan to. I'll go digging for title on the net.

What i'm saying is that it is not far-fetched to think that such an advanced civilization as the ancient Egyptians were, that dinosaur fossils were beyond them. In fact the ancient Chinese also found dino fossils and used them in ground up in medicines.

[Queen K]

http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm

This seems interesting to start with.

[xjeepguy]

http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm

This seems interesting to start with.

Good site , I found it very interesting , thanks .

[Born_again]

Viprium, you do realise that anyone that states "I used to be a atheist, but ...." were anything but, don't you? And, you do realise that there are very, very few rational thinkers that would actually 'buy' that line based upon precedence and a preponderance of ulterior motives common to the fundy mindset? Nice try!!

What an absurd statement. Google "A.J. Ayer" for starters.

... and Flew for seconds'?

Zzontar, it is no secret here on these forums that you have been hobbled by your addiction to apologetics, and as such you may have gained some advantage in discourse; much out of pity and mercy. By choosing A.J. Ayer as your foil, you have clearly demonstrated that you still have some way to go in picking your 'fights'. Sorry, old chap, but you can seek your bloody nose from someone less compassionate for today. Good luck!

[zzontar]

Viprium, you do realise that anyone that states "I used to be a atheist, but ...." were anything but, don't you? And, you do realise that there are very, very few rational thinkers that would actually 'buy' that line based upon precedence and a preponderance of ulterior motives common to the fundy mindset? Nice try!!

What an absurd statement. Google "A.J. Ayer" for starters.

... and Flew for seconds'?

Zzontar, it is no secret here on these forums that you have been hobbled by your addiction to apologetics, and as such you may have gained some advantage in discourse; much out of pity and mercy. By choosing A.J. Ayer as your foil, you have clearly demonstrated that you still have some way to go in picking your 'fights'. Sorry, old chap, but you can seek your bloody nose from someone less compassionate for today. Good luck!

Maybe I missed something, perhaps you could enlighten me as to how it's impossible for an atheist to become a non-atheist.

Edit to add: I'm hobbled by my addiction to apologetics? I stand up for what I believe in, even if it is my own belief and no one elses... why, you don't?