My View On Life

[JLives]

Hopeless???!!!

Wow....instead of living ones life in hopes of finding something better after you're dead......seems to make a whole lot more sense to me to live life to it's fullest and enjoy every wonder this world has to offer.

I find it equally unbelievable that one thinks there is only hope for something better than what we have here...what's wrong with the here and now ??

I'd much rather enjoy this life ...and...well.....be happy with what you've got instead of hoping for better !

You should live this life to the fullest and be as happy as you can be. I agree. But then what? Thats where the two roads end. Anyhow its just my two cents. Best to you.

Then you die. And that's totally ok.

[Meema]

Keeping in mind that this thread is about "My view on life" I find it intersesting that my view on my life offends so many people that they end up calling me delusional, crazy, narrow minded, even resort to using this
and sometimes all in the same sentence. That I wear "rose coloured" glasses and am(and "my kind") ridiculed for living differently than them. ANY HUMAN BEING no matter what they believed would be offended by these comments.
I am comitted to live a quiet, simple life...and whenever it depends on me...to be at peace with all men...doesn't mean I am a door mat...I pick my "battles".

Mv5.....I believe that the greatest of these commandments is love, and would some them up in the first two commandments.
Many people don't know what love is ....or how to love...IMO


This thread is...I thought...about my view on life....not bashing someone elses view.

[Born_again]

Keeping in mind that this thread is about "My view on life" I find it intersesting that my view on my life offends so many people that they end up calling me delusional, crazy, narrow minded, even resort to using this
and sometimes all in the same sentence. That I wear "rose coloured" glasses and am(and "my kind") ridiculed for living differently than them. ANY HUMAN BEING no matter what they believed would be offended by these comments.

As you have not posted on this thread prior to the above, do you not feel that you are exhibiting signs of persecution by proxy?
Also, do you realise that you were the first person to mention the words "delusional, crazy or narrow minded" in this thread? Do a search of this thread and you will see what I mean.

[Meema]

case in point...
I was talking about words spoken on so many threads on here that I wouldn't bother posting on all of them!
This seemed like a safe thread to state views on life...well up until now it was...

[Born_again]

No, it looks to me like you were referring to this thread.

Keeping in mind that this thread is about "My view on life" I find it intersesting ....

What makes you think that it's not "safe" to post your views on life in this "My View On Life" thread?

[janalta]

5V...I think what bothers me about your thoughts...is that you seem to feel somehow superior....that your life is better, fuller, happier, simply because you believe in god and we don't....and, it's not just you, it is the view of a lot of christians.
I for one, take offense at that view.
I don't understand that view...and honestly, to me, it doesn't seem very darned christian at all. ( seeing as how ALL men are supposed to be create equal)

I don't happen to live in fear. What is it that I am supposed to fear anyhow?
Life? Death? The world?

As for your ten commandments....what those are...are the basics of human morality and ethics.
Not the word of god....but something that is ingrained in all of us, no matter what religion or faith.
Someone just happened to put them in the bible...and said we act that way because god willed it. Nope...we act that way, we live our lives that way...because religous or not....we have love and compassion for others.

No one is superior to anyone else. Black, white, rich, poor, christian, buddhist, atheist.....no one knows better, no one has all the answers. NO ONE knows what the future holds. NO ONE knows what happens when you die. NO ONE...until we get there.

[ILBT uh-huh]

Yup!

[Meema]

Janalta....I respect your view on life. It is completely different from mine BUT...I admire you for stating your point of view without belittling, names calling etc.

[janalta]

Janalta....I respect your view on life. It is completely different from mine BUT...I admire you for stating your point of view without belittling, names calling etc.

Thanks Meema.
Being a heathen and all...you'd think I'd be all rude and obnoxious eh???

I think being able to truly understand other's people's views on religion is extremely important..and there's abolutely no excuse to belittle anyone who doesn't think as we do.
Life would be pretty darned boring if we were all the same.

I am certainly not anti christian ! Heck, half my family and a good number of my friends are christians, some are buddhists, some are spiritualists, some are atheists...no biggie.

[5VP]

5V...I think what bothers me about your thoughts...is that you seem to feel somehow superior....that your life is better, fuller, happier, simply because you believe in god and we don't....and, it's not just you, it is the view of a lot of christians.
I for one, take offense at that view.
I don't understand that view...and honestly, to me, it doesn't seem very darned christian at all. ( seeing as how ALL men are supposed to be create equal)

I don't happen to live in fear. What is it that I am supposed to fear anyhow?
Life? Death? The world?

As for your ten commandments....what those are...are the basics of human morality and ethics.
Not the word of god....but something that is ingrained in all of us, no matter what religion or faith.
Someone just happened to put them in the bible...and said we act that way because god willed it. Nope...we act that way, we live our lives that way...because religous or not....we have love and compassion for others.

No one is superior to anyone else. Black, white, rich, poor, christian, buddhist, atheist.....no one knows better, no one has all the answers. NO ONE knows what the future holds. NO ONE knows what happens when you die. NO ONE...until we get there.

Hmmm.... OK...

How can you possibly be "offended" by something you don't fully understand??

What is offensive about happy people whether or not it happens to be the view of "a lot of christians"?

Since none of us have all the answers than how is having a life with faith wrong?

All men and women are not created equal. Some here on earth are less fortunate...

GOD did "apparently" pass these commandments down in stone to Moses. The commandments ARE the word of GOD.

No Judgement intended here. Just the facts...

No superiority here either...

I definitely don't have all the answers and I'm not qualified nor do I aspire to be ordained as a Minister.

As also mentioned by others; this thread is about "my view on life" . MY LIFE...

Not yours or anyone else's. Nothing else intended.

To look at life as a crapshoot that is based solely on odds and probabilities seems a much more loveless, mechanistic way to live (in my opinion).

Kinda like planning on or hoping to die in a traffic accident every time you step out of your door after living all day with the probabilities of dying in a workplace accident or going to bed knowing the probability of dying in your sleep or...(insert every probability of every possibility for injury or death during the duration of one's "life" here on earth)

Not for me thanks...

I'd rather just enjoy my life without those kinds of irrational fears.

Not even sure about the Christian designation either.

I've always thought of myself more as Gnostic or even Fatalist. Too many of the "Christian" bible stories also occur in in texts and cultures more ancient than the biblical texts.

MY faith inspires me to get outa bed in the morning and do interesting things each day. I'm lazy like that...

When I view each and every aspect of life as a gift from GOD (is there only one per universe?) I feel more joyful; and yes I do believe there are rewards for doing so.

My faith is Christian only in the sense that I believe in the miracle of Jesus Christ and have read his message of love and faith and have been able to embrace and incorporate many other world faiths and philosophies into my personal faith in a greater power.

Jesus didn't specifically preach "Christianity". He taught about the rules of living with the gift of life from the "father' and the possibility that by obeying most of the rules, most of the time, you would improve your "odds" of going to a place he called "Heaven".

Parts of my life also incorporate atheism too..

Example...

I've not been visiting this forum for several days because I was backcountry ski touring at about 8000 ft.

It was quite slide prone and spots were deadly dangerous. We had to be on our game.

Despite the heightened awareness I felt no fear and could only marvel even more at GOD's natural wonders of nature.

I felt no fear because I too knew the "odds/probabilities" of having a catastrophic accident occur. I applied my knowledge to the best of my ability to control those odds.

With faith in myself through GOD, I reached a new height of personal awareness and greater belief in GOD that I likely would not have accomplished has I been scared of the odds of dying while doing such activities.

To go to these places and not feel a stirring in one's soul is, I believe, completely impossible.

My fatalist views also evolve from serving in the military where I was versed in, and witnessed, the random nature of death which carried over into the logging industry.

My faith(s) all stem from my personal experiences and readings on the subject of religion and philosophy.

For me, Faith isn't about being a one trick pony.

I'm having a great life. I wish the same for all others here...

[tryscotty]

Actually the Bible is the oldest religious book in existence today by far. Which Bible accounts are you referring to that Pre date it? I no of none. I do agree though many many cultures all over the globe share common stories. The Bible is the oldest. First words penned around 3500 years ago last about 2000.

[tryscotty]

Sorry one more. I just noticed you said Jesus didn't preach Christianity. Seriously? A Christian by definition is a footstep follower of Christ. He clearly did invite any and all who would listen to follow him or in other words become a Christian.

[5VP]

The Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads (just for starters) are religious texts that predate the bible by thousands of years.

There are even references to Lord Melchizedek (Genesis), who gave warning to Lot in Sodom and Gommorrah, in these and other ancient texts.

Many Egyptian and Chinese texts are also older.

"Christianity" evolved after the death of Christ and wasn't called as such during the life of the Jewish born Jesus Christ.

Jesus DID NOT specifically preach, teach or otherwise advocate "Christianity". He was ,if anything, an Essene during his life on earth.

You don't have to be a christian to believe in Jesus or GOD.

Religion has segmented the whole gospel and dispersed their versions of it for years.

Many people enjoy smoking reefer but that doesn't mean that they now have become "Rastafarian" to enjoy the bliss.

Christ's message belongs to all , regardless of any resultant religious affiliations humans have devised to control and/or corrupt or otherwise mute, muddle or mutate the message in his words.

The priests and ministers etc. got into religion racket early; but even still, the best they can offer is the basic bible 101 version of what can be learned by following and believing in your own path.

The bible is the catalyst to the sparks of intuition into your own vision of life...

[tryscotty]

The oldest known handwritten copy is dated to 1488. It is in a museum in London.

Estimates of the age of the Gita itself range from 500 BCE to first century CE. It's thought to be later than the rest of the Mahabharata based on internal evidence and poetic style. Please keep in mind holy books usually make far fetched claims and certainly Hindu books do. I look for actual proof located in famous museums you can see with your own eyes. Otherwise I would have to believe eqyptian rulers were 20-40 thousand years old when they died. The big issue is people get their history from movies today. On the other note Jesus did not use the term Christian that was given to people shortly after his death. Those who were followers of Jesus and did as he did. I won't be commenting anymore on this subject if that basic fact isn't something that can be agreed on. Hay , people who mine for coal are called coal miners even if the first people doing it wernt. You could look back and still call them the first coal miners.

[Queen K]

http://discoverthefaith.com/2008/04/06/ ... the-bible/

But come on, the Bible is full of wild claims that most of us are aware that they are not literal.