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How can they have a open mind if because of their disbelief in religion they have already pick a winner. An open scientific mind would not be closed other ideas.


Evolution is now fact. Just like we've recently agreed upon how the Dinosaurs became extinct. Stamped and Approved by the world. Beyond reasonable doubt. Thank you.


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DeepEnd wrote:Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind

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DeepEnd wrote:Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
--- Albert Einstein


Albert Einstein lived in a generation where religion was still exciting going strong around him. The evidence of Evolution wasn't all compiled during his time. And Albert was focused on other fields of study that had greater importance. Now all the evidence is compiled, and Religion is living its extinction.
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The "Archaeoraptor" fake
In 1999, a supposed 'missing link' fossil of an apparently feathered dinosaur named "Archaeoraptor liaoningensis", found in Liaoning Province, northeastern China, turned out to be a forgery. Comparing the photograph of the specimen with another find, Chinese paleontologist Xu Xing came to the conclusion that it was composed of two portions of different fossil animals. His claim made National Geographic review their research and they too came to the same conclusion.[7] The bottom portion of the "Archaeoraptor" composite came from a legitimate feathered dromaeosaurid now known as Microraptor, and the upper portion from a previously-known primitive bird called Yanornis.
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zzontar wrote:
forum wrote:
forum wrote:
DeepEnd wrote:
How can they have a open mind if because of their disbelief in religion they have already pick a winner. An open scientific mind would not be closed other ideas.


Evolution is now fact. Just like we've recently agreed upon how the Dinosaurs became extinct. Stamped and Approved by the world. Beyond reasonable doubt. Thank you.


Got a link for that, too?


This should get you started.

The fact of Evolution: 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOuTGz8JF8&feature=related
The fact of Evolution: 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnFlazfCLSg&feature=related

Dinosaur Extinction Fact: 1) http://www.universetoday.com/58792/scientists-come-to-a-conclusion-asteroid-killed-the-dinosaurs/


Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72kRbvXcvo&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA
Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYAFptyG9P4&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=2&playnext=2
Video 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu9grDAOPe4&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=3&playnext=3
Video 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG3NK6-ysPo&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=4&playnext=4
Video 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZwIY1YqaAw&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=5&playnext=5
Video 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSH2JBb2lWI&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=6&playnext=6
Video 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72kRbvXcvo&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=1&playnext=7
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cutter7 wrote:The "Archaeoraptor" fake
In 1999, a supposed 'missing link' fossil of an apparently feathered dinosaur named "Archaeoraptor liaoningensis", found in Liaoning Province, northeastern China, turned out to be a forgery. Comparing the photograph of the specimen with another find, Chinese paleontologist Xu Xing came to the conclusion that it was composed of two portions of different fossil animals. His claim made National Geographic review their research and they too came to the same conclusion.[7] The bottom portion of the "Archaeoraptor" composite came from a legitimate feathered dromaeosaurid now known as Microraptor, and the upper portion from a previously-known primitive bird called Yanornis.


Hi cutter7. What is the point you are trying to make in posting this statement?

In 2002, the supposed 'jesus box' of the widely controversial Jesus was in fact a fake. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0618_030618_jesusbox.html
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forum wrote:
DeepEnd wrote:Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind
--- Albert Einstein


Albert Einstein lived in a generation where religion was still exciting going strong around him. The evidence of Evolution wasn't all compiled during his time. And Albert was focused on other fields of study that had greater importance. Now all the evidence is compiled, and Religion is living its extinction.



Remember in school when there were nine planets. Everyone of a certain age learned that. Scientists said " That's it, there isn't any more" and they were right. In fact there wasn't even nine.

Science is always re-writing itself. Isn't it so easy to be right when you can change your view at will.

the bible, while always under interpretation, can trace an origin of its writing to hard copies written centuries and centuries ago by, yes, men of the time.

Dear forum, I wish you all the luck providing proof that hasn't even changed the science books yet. I can see an endless discussion on the subject. I'm not here to prove whether there is a god or not or how he created the solar system. I know my answer and am happy with that.

I enjoy reading about every new theory that science provides. It's interesting to see man cope with his attempting to learn of his own beginning. All we have proven so far is that something happened, some where, at some time, by some means that we can't attempt to reproduce, other than the ooze it may have occurred in. The rest is just theory with proof. Which can change at any time. So at this time it is not a fact.

I'm saying keep an open mind.
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forum wrote:
cutter7 wrote:The "Archaeoraptor" fake
In 1999, a supposed 'missing link' fossil of an apparently feathered dinosaur named "Archaeoraptor liaoningensis", found in Liaoning Province, northeastern China, turned out to be a forgery. Comparing the photograph of the specimen with another find, Chinese paleontologist Xu Xing came to the conclusion that it was composed of two portions of different fossil animals. His claim made National Geographic review their research and they too came to the same conclusion.[7] The bottom portion of the "Archaeoraptor" composite came from a legitimate feathered dromaeosaurid now known as Microraptor, and the upper portion from a previously-known primitive bird called Yanornis.


Hi cutter7. What is the point you are trying to make in posting this statement?

In 2002, the supposed 'jesus box' of the widely controversial Jesus was in fact a fake. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0618_030618_jesusbox.html


The point was that the link provided by queen k stating that there was fossil evidence of feathers on dinosaurs had she read all the way down shows that it was proven to be faked.

There remains to this day no proof showing any species has evolved from another.
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Remember in school when there were nine planets. Everyone of a certain age learned that. Scientists said " That's it, there isn't any more" and they were right. In fact there wasn't even nine.

Science is always re-writing itself. Isn't it so easy to be right when you can change your view at will.

the bible, while always under interpretation, can trace an origin of its writing to hard copies written centuries and centuries ago by, yes, men of the time.

Dear forum, I wish you all the luck providing proof that hasn't even changed the science books yet. I can see an endless discussion on the subject. I'm not here to prove whether there is a god or not or how he created the solar system. I know my answer and am happy with that.

I enjoy reading about every new theory that science provides. It's interesting to see man cope with his attempting to learn of his own beginning. All we have proven so far is that something happened, some where, at some time, by some means that we can't attempt to reproduce, other than the ooze it may have occurred in. The rest is just theory with proof. Which can change at any time. So at this time it is not a fact.

I'm saying keep an open mind.
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My mind is open to endless possibilities. But religion just doesn't fit anywhere in current understandings of our evolution as a species. You must be cautious when you make general statements about science. Science is very exact and when you make general statements that cannot be confirmed, your credibility is questioned. In defense of scientists and their discovery of planets. They only ever claim what they have discovered and have evidence for. Sometimes they are mistaken that a planet is actually a star, but that doesn't mean all the other planets vanish with their discovery. They start everything with a theory based on a few pieces of evidence. As they find more evidence, the puzzle pieces fall in place and they prove their theory. They never said there were only 9 planets. They said that they have observed what looks like 9 planets. A scientific fact is the Earth is one of the planets. Are you now going to ignorantly claim that the scientists were wrong about one of the planets, therefore there are no planets? Will you begin to claim that the earth is possibly not rotating on an axis because scientists have been wrong before?

Deepend, why are you so scared to accept what is evident now? Do you have too much invested in your beliefs? Peer pressure from other religious people? It's not like you've lost anything by accepting Evolution. Your not going to lose your ticket to heaven, because there just isn't one. Sorry.

I have accepted Evolutions facts because of the evidence science have found. Nobody in the higher education circles are wondering anymore. The evidence is there, and they've accepted evolution. It is no longer theory. Piles and piles of evidence in all sectors of science confirm the validity of Evolution. This is why religion is becoming such a minority in higher education circles. Most people completely understand how evolution works now.

I have provided BBC documentaries on the fact of Evolution and the Dinosaurs. Can you please present to me a BBC Documentary or any creditable source clearly confirming the existence of god? I'm willing to bet you can only provide me with an interview of a religious person preaching and very excitedly trying to prove a point by quoting a bunch of people and not providing any hard evidence. The hard evidence of evolution is in the fossils. It is real, you can lick and taste it.

I'm willing to accept Religion if someone can give me something real to grab on to. Not just a bunch of hearsay and wishful thinking.
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Living proof that God exisits? One does not need a BBC documentry to prove that there is a God or no God. I would just have to look at the Queen of England? That's proof enough for me.
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averagejoe wrote:Living proof that God exisits? One does not need a BBC documentry to prove that there is a God or no God. I would just have to look at the Queen of England? That's proof enough for me.


LOL@ your satire.

Atheists are Delusional: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhQLt1vbWU&feature=related
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averagejoe wrote:Living proof that God exisits? One does not need a BBC documentry to prove that there is a God or no God. I would just have to look at the Queen of England? That's proof enough for me.


LOL@ your satire.

Atheists are Delusional: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhQLt1vbWU&feature=related


You asked for evidence and I gave it to you. The English throne are direct descendance of King David. No scientific evidence needed. Just 3,600 years of Isrealite History.
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forum wrote: You must be cautious when you make general statements about science.

:coffeecanuck: Thank you for participating in this discussion forum. I wish I had more time to join in on the fun.
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And King David is still a descendant of apes. Nothings changed there. BTW, who is Muhammad of Islam a descendant of? :sunshine:
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forum wrote:
zzontar wrote:
forum wrote:
forum wrote:
DeepEnd wrote:
How can they have a open mind if because of their disbelief in religion they have already pick a winner. An open scientific mind would not be closed other ideas.


Evolution is now fact. Just like we've recently agreed upon how the Dinosaurs became extinct. Stamped and Approved by the world. Beyond reasonable doubt. Thank you.


Got a link for that, too?


This should get you started.

The fact of Evolution: 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOuTGz8JF8&feature=related
The fact of Evolution: 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnFlazfCLSg&feature=related



Dinosaur Extinction Fact: 1) http://www.universetoday.com/58792/scientists-come-to-a-conclusion-asteroid-killed-the-dinosaurs/


Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72kRbvXcvo&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA
Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYAFptyG9P4&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=2&playnext=2
Video 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu9grDAOPe4&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=3&playnext=3
Video 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG3NK6-ysPo&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=4&playnext=4
Video 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZwIY1YqaAw&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=5&playnext=5
Video 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSH2JBb2lWI&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=6&playnext=6
Video 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72kRbvXcvo&feature=autoplay&list=SP59C9BA92245E03DA&index=1&playnext=7


Though I don't doubt it was possible, it is by no means a fact that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs. This is why when I googled "what killed the dinosaurs," every link I read used words like "probably" and "theoretically" as well as links leading to volcanoes being the demise of the dinosaurs. When something is an indisputable fact, you won't find countless links that refer to it as a theory.
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