The Bible... literally?

[steven lloyd]

The records were in the Temple in Jerusalem destroyed by the Romans in 70ce.

Link ? Without a link your claim is meaningless.

[GordonH]

So Jacob pick-up this stone and took it with him ............ please go back drawing board.

This as got to the funniest story I read on this forum for while, with exception to a certain sub-forum connected to World.

(who sleeps with a stone as a pillow)

[averagejoe]

So Jacob pick this stone and took it with him ............ please go back drawing board.

This as got to the funniest story I read on this forum for while, with exception to a certain sub-forum connected to World.

I see you really have a lot to offer??? So you can explain why Jacob's Stone is under the Coronation Throne?? What do you have to offer other than being silly....

[GordonH]

So Jacob pick this stone and took it with him ............ please go back drawing board.

This as got to the funniest story I read on this forum for while, with exception to a certain sub-forum connected to World.

I see you really have a lot to offer??? So you can explain why Jacob's Stone is under the Coronation Throne?? What do you have to offer other than being silly....

Is it averagejoe, please provide proof that this stone is the very same stone mention in OT.

[averagejoe]

So Jacob pick this stone and took it with him ............ please go back drawing board.

This as got to the funniest story I read on this forum for while, with exception to a certain sub-forum connected to World.

I see you really have a lot to offer??? So you can explain why Jacob's Stone is under the Coronation Throne?? What do you have to offer other than being silly....

Is it averagejoe, please provide proof that this stone is the very same stone mention in OT.

Sure....Why is the Stone under the Coronation Throne? Are you saying that the British Government and Monarchy are lying?
Why was Queen Elizabeth II Crowned on the Stone and her father and her Grandfather, Her Great Grand mother Queen Victoria etc, etc, etc...for 1600 years?

Here is how the Stone got from Scone Scotland to Westminster Abby by King Edward and had built the Coronation Throne just for the Stone in 1296.....over 800 years ago.

http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/scotlandsh ... /index.asp

Here is some reading for you...

http://www.aadet.com/article/Stone_of_Jacob

[averagejoe]

Here is a picture of the Stone of Scone....Cornel University Library.
Click on picture of the Coronation Throne.


http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/scotlandsh ... /index.asp

[averagejoe]

Here is a video of Queen Elizabeth II Coronation. You can see the Throne and Stone of Scone early in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGLN1kREJ2Q

[averagejoe]

hockeyfan1970 wrote:
So Jacob pick-up this stone and took it with him.
(who sleeps with a stone as a pillow)

Not only did Jacob Annointed the Stone with oil the next day and then used it as an alter there after. He called it Bethel or House of God. (Stone of Bethel) To this day is the town of Bethel in Israel. Elijah set up the very first school for priests in Bethel.

"Here we have Jacob's pillow."

Inscribed on the arch surrounding the chair in which the stone is
placed, are the words, "This is God's House."

We read in the Book of Genesis, chapter 28: "And Jacob took the
stone that he had put for his pillows,and set up for a pillar,
and poured oil upon the top of it, and called the name of that
place Beth-el ... And Jacob vowed a vow saying: If God will be
with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me
bread to eat, and raiment to put on, So that I come again to my
father's house in then shall the Lord be my God; And this stone,
which set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all thou
shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee."

[GordonH]

hockeyfan1970 wrote:
So Jacob pick-up this stone and took it with him.
(who sleeps with a stone as a pillow)

Not only did Jacob Anointed the Stone with oil the next day and then used it as an alter there after. He called it Bethel or House of God. (Stone of Bethel) To this day is the town of Bethel in Israel. Elijah set up the very first school for priests in Bethel.

"Here we have Jacob's pillow."

Inscribed on the arch surrounding the chair in which the stone is
placed, are the words, "This is God's House."

We read in the Book of Genesis, chapter 28: "And Jacob took the
stone that he had put for his pillows,and set up for a pillar,
and poured oil upon the top of it, and called the name of that
place Beth-el ... And Jacob vowed a vow saying: If God will be
with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me
bread to eat, and raiment to put on, So that I come again to my
father's house in then shall the Lord be my God; And this stone,
which set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all thou
shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee."

Would hate to burst your bubble averagejoe. Jacob used this stone as a marker for future Temple of God build by Solomon. The stone was place were the Holy of Holies, would be when Solomon builds the first Temple.

Genesis 28: 22 NASB
22 "This stone, which I have set up as a pillar, will be God's house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You."

[tryscotty]

There are so many problems with this subject I will not add to it. Anyone care to comment on my OP? I pretty much called all mainstream so called Christians hypocrites. Any baptists, catholics and the gun carring like who claim to follow Jesus care to respond? If not, have fun with your book/movie/distorted unprovable history debate.

[Glacier]

There are so many problems with this subject I will not add to it. Anyone care to comment on my OP?

Nope and for two reasons:
1) You haven't answered Steven Lloyd's question yet.
2) Just like averagejoe's British-Israelism theory:

There are so many problems with this subject I will not add to it.

[tryscotty]

My bad. I actually mixed the two topics. I meant my last one for the war oppression one. That's what I get for doing this on my phone.

[averagejoe]

hockeyfan1970 wrote: Jacob used this stone as a marker for future Temple of God build by Solomon. The stone was place were the Holy of Holies, would be when Solomon builds the first Temple.

I would think that the Stone of Bethel or Jacob's pillow would be inside Solomon's temple. Not to be used as a keystone or as a foundation stone.

[RR24K]

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[averagejoe]

tryscotty wrote: If not, have fun with your book/movie/distorted unprovable history debate.

I think you would have to go see the Archbishop of Canterbury for the unproven history part. I just post what I found. You haven't proved anything except little silly jokes.
An article just before Christmas about the Throne Tree branches being slashed in Glastonbury England sparked my interest. I started researching and this subject opened a whole new persective on England, Christ, Ireland, Scotland, Stone of Bethel, Holy Grail. Picked up a few books on the subject. All very interesting stuff.