'Atheist' bus

[fluffy]

The "happily ever after" has a rather selective admissions policy, about which some people have been grossly misinformed.

Oh, tell us how you know that people have been grossly misinformed, did some weird being from a weird place tell you?

I thought it was a safe assumption that heaven did not cater to rapists and murderers, not that I've been there but I read a brochure once.

[cutter7]

http://www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/ ... cal_atheis

[grammafreddy]

The "happily ever after" has a rather selective admissions policy, about which some people have been grossly misinformed.

Oh, tell us how you know that people have been grossly misinformed, did some weird being from a weird place tell you?

I thought it was a safe assumption that heaven did not cater to rapists and murderers, not that I've been there but I read a brochure once.

[Glacier]

I do find it somewhat ironic though that the outrage over this theft was based on faith (belief without evidence) that a religious bus driver perpetrated the crime.

Astute observation.

[RePete]

Soon to be displayed on buses and inside subway cars for all to read....

"There probably is no God. Now stop worrying and get on with your life."

That ad campaign is coming to Canadian Transit systems near you.

Can you imagine the uproar that would take place if the Toronto Transit Commission approved an ad campaign that read...

"There probably is no Allah. Now stop worrying and get on with your life."

We will likely replace the ads and let the contract finish. The theft resulted in a whole lot of exposure for us. The best media exposure of all. Free. The next campaign is rolling out as we speak. To answer your question, yes, we can imagine Allah in the ad.
"Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence"
" Allah Bigfoot UFO's Homeopathy Zeus Psychics Christ"

Coming soon to a bus and other venues near you. Join us. http://www.extraordinary-claims.com/

[steven lloyd]

Coming soon to a bus and other venues near you. Join us. http://www.extraordinary-claims.com/

Chiropractic in the Treatment of Spinal Conditions:

The Canadian Chiropractic Association claims that there have been countless scientific clinical studies evaluating spinal manipulation as an appropriate and effective medical treatment. However, it is important to note that systematic reviews of the available research indicate that the majority of support for chiropractic comes from case studies focusing on unreliable testimonial evidence. Furthermore, few randomized controlled trials (RCTs), the gold-standard for efficacy research, have been conducted to date.

http://extraordinarybus.wordpress.com/2 ... ropractic/

Interesting. 40,000 plus people report chiropractic care relieved them of their pain allowing them to walk and even work again, but that’s unreliable testimonial evidence.

Oh well, I know what it did for me

(off topic anyway)

[BoB76]

So a driver did it and got caught on camera, but it's getting denied to avoid a union conflict? Does that about sum it all up?

[RePete]

So a driver did it and got caught on camera, but it's getting denied to avoid a union conflict? Does that about sum it all up?

KELOWNA, B.C. - The City of Kelowna has concluded its investigation into the disappearance of atheist ads from city buses — but staff are no closer to knowing what happened to the controversial advertisements.

Regional programs manager Jerry Dombrowski says the results of the review are inconclusive.

The ads read: "There probably is no God, so stop worrying and enjoy your life."

They were reported missing from city buses on April 29. The ads paid for by the Centre for Inquiry were supposed to run until Wednesday.

Dombrowski says the investigation found no evidence of unauthorized entry into the transit yard where the buses were sitting.

But he says the decals plastered on the bus are not difficult to remove, and staff aren't even sure whether they were removed in the transit yard or off-site. (CKFR)

I'm personally not aware of anyone at our end accusing a driver for this action. As I said, the advertising company will supply bus space for the duration of the contract and we will replace the ads. Obviously someone was upset enough with the message to break the law and one of the major commandments, (assuming he/she/they is/are religious) It is a fairly benign statement meant to open up discussion (which it did) and let those in the closet know that there are non-believers here and they have some support if they chose to come out. To whoever removed the ads illegally, thank you. You added even more public awareness to our cause.
The new campaign will be Canadian only and will hopefully foster discussion on a wide range of beliefs and practices that deserve more skeptical attention. CFI stands for Centre for Inquiry, after all.

[fluffy]

From the beginning I saw this as an issue of censorship, someone deciding for me what I should or shouldn't see. All religious arguments aside, that is still the central issue. That the posters were removed by stealth and the fact that no one has come forth to accept responsibility for their removal speaks volumes as to the moral integrity of those who performed the deed. But a new spectre has shown its face, that of the "victim" CFI. I see now what is taking on the appearance of a huge degree opportunism, an attempt to drum this relatively small occurrence into a huge issue in an attempt to garner free publicity for CFI. I'm getting pretty tired of hearing the "poor me" statements by CFI reps claiming monstrous social injustice. Jeez, you're getting new posters and a longer run of display time. Let it go ya whiners.

[Tumult]

"Obviously someone was upset enough with the message to break the law "

Another possibility is someone stole the signs because they thought they'd be cool hanging on their walls.

[RePete]

From the beginning I saw this as an issue of censorship, someone deciding for me what I should or shouldn't see. All religious arguments aside, that is still the central issue. That the posters were removed by stealth and the fact that no one has come forth to accept responsibility for their removal speaks volumes as to the moral integrity of those who performed the deed. But a new spectre has shown its face, that of the "victim" CFI. I see now what is taking on the appearance of a huge degree opportunism, an attempt to drum this relatively small occurrence into a huge issue in an attempt to garner free publicity for CFI. I'm getting pretty tired of hearing the "poor me" statements by CFI reps claiming monstrous social injustice. Jeez, you're getting new posters and a longer run of display time. Let it go ya whiners.

Actually we have to pay for new posters and are getting only the amount of ad time we paid for from the company we contracted with. No more, no less.

But a new spectre has shown its face, that of the "victim" CFI.

Spectre ? Very dramatic. (we'll have to speak to you about writing some ad copy for us) ;-) And yes, I would say we are the victim. Who else would you consider to be victimized in this issue? Ads are quite expensive. They were stolen. We are the victims. Our job is to promote a concept/idea with the ad and when that opportunity is taken from us illegally, then we will "whine", as you so eloquently pointed out. The fact that we garner extra publicity from this is not something of our own making but obviously we will take advantage of the opportunity the thief/thieves presented to us. I'm wondering whether or not you would do the same if you were a member of an organization put in the same position?

[fluffy]

The fact that we garner extra publicity from this is not something of our own making but obviously we will take advantage of the opportunity the thief/thieves presented to us.

My point exactly. And the commentaries I have heard are way over the top, considering the occurrence is easily rectified by replacement of the posters. I'm not in any way condoning the action that was taken against CFI, but one would think that when placing ads designed specifically to promote debate and controversy that one would accept the possibility of such a reaction as has occurred here. The whole "shock and outrage" thing as expressed by CFI reps gets real tired real fast.

It has been announced in the media that an extended display time is being granted free of charge, is that a falsehood?

[RePete]

The fact that we garner extra publicity from this is not something of our own making but obviously we will take advantage of the opportunity the thief/thieves presented to us.

My point exactly. And the commentaries I have heard are way over the top, considering the occurrence is easily rectified by replacement of the posters. I'm not in any way condoning the action that was taken against CFI, but one would think that when placing ads designed specifically to promote debate and controversy that one would accept the possibility of such a reaction as has occurred here. The whole "shock and outrage" thing as expressed by CFI reps gets real tired real fast.

It has been announced in the media that an extended display time is being granted free of charge, is that a falsehood?

It's display time we have already paid for but did not get. We paid for a month. We got less than 2 weeks.

As I asked, would you be outraged if you were in our shoes? Or would you shrug your shoulders and just suck it up because it's controversial? I suppose I could compare it to a woman wearing provocative clothing having the right to remain unmolested, but that would be way over the top. The ads were indeed meant to create dialogue and debate, but we did not expect an out and out theft. That is outrageous. These bus ads have run in many parts of the world and (to my knowledge) have never been stolen.

You feel we are whining and it get's "real tired real fast". That's unfortunate but that's your right. Some will feel that way but I believe that most won't.

[steven lloyd]

It is a fairly benign statement meant to open up discussion (which it did) and let those in the closet know that there are non-believers here and they have some support if they chose to come out.

Atheists live in closets ??? I don’t get it. Why are they so scared ?

[normaM]

It is a fairly benign statement meant to open up discussion (which it did) and let those in the closet know that there are non-believers here and they have some support if they chose to come out.

Atheists live in closets ??? I don’t get it. Why are they so scared ?

LOL. For $200 you can put that on a bus side