Evolution anyone?

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Nothing more than a 21st century Haekel forged embryo. I had to study his crap in school.
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Takin it easy ! wrote: I have yet to see facts and proof that evolution is anything other than theory based .

I will agree that evolution is a theory. However, to admit you have yet to see any of the mountains of the facts or evidence that supports this well-accepted theory really calls into question how much effort you are putting into challenging your position.
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Takin it easy ! wrote: I have yet to see facts and proof that evolution is anything other than theory based .
So yes it is an opinion and believed by some but not all !


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Now that's funny.
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Takin it easy !, I've been working with crinoids for the last few weeks. If you wish to know the facts of how you and I are related to them then I'd be happy to share via PM. No theories, just plain old facts .... you know; that pesky indisputable stuff that bogs us down from time to time.

PS: Did you know that one remarkable anatomical feature of a crinoid is that even today, its anus is located directly next to its mouth. Yes!! That, for me, kind of explains why some *bleep* sapiens have great difficulty with the facts of evolution, yet others don't; some of us have evolved beyond our echinoderm ancestral morphology.
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Born_again wrote:Takin it easy !, I've been working with crinoids for the last few weeks. If you wish to know the facts of how you and I are related to them then I'd be happy to share via PM. No theories, just plain old facts .... you know; that pesky indisputable stuff that bogs us down from time to time.

PS: Did you know that one remarkable anatomical feature of a crinoid is that even today, its anus is located directly next to its mouth. Yes!! That, for me, kind of explains why some *bleep* sapiens have great difficulty with the facts of evolution, yet others don't; some of us have evolved beyond our echinoderm ancestral morphology.


Have you found any facts that show any species evolving into another species? surely if we evolved from another species and the species we evolved from still exists we would see species that are in between us and them.
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Evolution takes place over a long period of time, longer than our species has been around to record it. I know we tend to deman instant results but the universe doesn't work that way. Everything living thing on this planet is a transistional species.

Evolution is not linear (species A turns into species B which turns into species C etc.), it's more like a web and one we are tracing through genetics. As we map genomes we can show exactly how species are related to each other, it's very interesting.
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cutter7 wrote:Have you found any facts that show any species evolving into another species? surely if we evolved from another species and the species we evolved from still exists we would see species that are in between us and them.


Why? If the intermediate species does not fit well into either niche, why would it still be here?
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Tacklewasher wrote:
cutter7 wrote:Have you found any facts that show any species evolving into another species? surely if we evolved from another species and the species we evolved from still exists we would see species that are in between us and them.


Why? If the intermediate species does not fit well into either niche, why would it still be here?


why? because that original species would still be evolving or you would be able to show fossil evidence and i've yet to see any
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here is a list of scientists who disagree with the theory of evolution.http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB ... oad&id=660
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Cutter, ALL animals, plants and biological material are in transition even within a single species as genetic mutations occur. It's not a start and stop linear ind of thing.

This is the evolution circle was referring to earlier, it shows how all species are interconnected genetically from fungi to *bleep* sapiens. We are the red dot.

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cutter7 wrote:here is a list of scientists who disagree with the theory of evolution.http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB ... oad&id=660


Cutter, that is not going to, um, cut it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute
The Discovery Institute is a non-profit public policy think tank based in Seattle, Washington, best known for its advocacy of intelligent design creationism. Founded in 1990, the institute describes its purpose as promoting "ideas in the common sense tradition of representative government, the free market and individual liberty."[2]

Its Teach the Controversy campaign aims to teach creationist anti-evolution beliefs in United States public high school science courses alongside accepted scientific theories, positing a scientific controversy exists over these subjects.[3][4][5][6][7]

A federal court, along with the majority of scientific organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, say the Institute has manufactured the controversy they want to teach by promoting a false perception that evolution is "a theory in crisis",[8] through incorrectly claiming that it is the subject of wide controversy and debate within the scientific community.[9][10][11] In 2005, a federal court ruled that the Discovery Institute pursues "demonstrably religious, cultural, and legal missions",[8][10][12] and the institute's manifesto, the Wedge strategy,[13] describes a religious goal: to "reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions".[14][15]
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jennylives wrote:
cutter7 wrote:here is a list of scientists who disagree with the theory of evolution.http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB ... oad&id=660


Cutter, that is not going to, um, cut it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute
The Discovery Institute is a non-profit public policy think tank based in Seattle, Washington, best known for its advocacy of intelligent design creationism. Founded in 1990, the institute describes its purpose as promoting "ideas in the common sense tradition of representative government, the free market and individual liberty."[2]

Its Teach the Controversy campaign aims to teach creationist anti-evolution beliefs in United States public high school science courses alongside accepted scientific theories, positing a scientific controversy exists over these subjects.[3][4][5][6][7]

A federal court, along with the majority of scientific organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, say the Institute has manufactured the controversy they want to teach by promoting a false perception that evolution is "a theory in crisis",[8] through incorrectly claiming that it is the subject of wide controversy and debate within the scientific community.[9][10][11] In 2005, a federal court ruled that the Discovery Institute pursues "demonstrably religious, cultural, and legal missions",[8][10][12] and the institute's manifesto, the Wedge strategy,[13] describes a religious goal: to "reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions".[14][15]


Not to you maybe but when i see a list of scientists willing to put their names out there for debate I tend to take notice considering they are the experts
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cutter7 wrote:
Have you found any facts that show any species evolving into another species? surely if we evolved from another species and the species we evolved from still exists we would see species that are in between us and them.



In response to your question, yes. As for your supposition, it lacks the very basics of understanding of what speciation is, and how it occurs. Suffice to say(as mentioned by others), all species past and present are prime examples of "intermediate species".
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If you have proof of one species changing to another all you have to do is show it and the debate ends right here.




I am attaching a video done by a jewish scientist who asks and answers some questions and why he believes we are created not evolved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzetqYev ... re=related

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