Why are worldly people so repulsive compared to Christians?

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zzontar wrote:There has always been time? The leading scientists believe time started with the big bang, perhaps you know something they don't? Where do you think the matter that created the universe came from, did it all magically appear one day, or did it exist forever with no beginning?

Time and the universe aren't the same thing.


Thy supposedly started at the same time... google it.
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zzontar wrote:
Mr. Personality wrote:
zzontar wrote:There has always been time? The leading scientists believe time started with the big bang, perhaps you know something they don't? Where do you think the matter that created the universe came from, did it all magically appear one day, or did it exist forever with no beginning?

Time and the universe aren't the same thing.


Thy supposedly started at the same time... google it.

Google nothing. How can there not be time? Certainly there was a period before the universe began.

Unless the big bang includes some sort of giant clock. There has always been time and there will always be time. Whether there's a universe or not is irrelevant.
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Doesn't much matter, it was there before us and will be there long after.

Back to the topic, my question would be more like, why are some posters so repulsive compared to others and where do they come up with this crud? :127:
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Mr. Personality wrote:Google nothing. How can there not be time? Certainly there was a period before the universe began.

Unless the big bang includes some sort of giant clock. There has always been time and there will always be time. Whether there's a universe or not is irrelevant.

Time has no independent existence. It's a unit of motion. No motion; no time.
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Glacier wrote:Time has no independent existence. I'ts a unit of motion. No motion; no time.


I dunno, I know a few people who waste a lot of time with no motion at all! :127:
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Glacier wrote:
Mr. Personality wrote:Google nothing. How can there not be time? Certainly there was a period before the universe began.

Unless the big bang includes some sort of giant clock. There has always been time and there will always be time. Whether there's a universe or not is irrelevant.

Time has no independent existence. It's a unit of motion. No motion; no time.

No sense...
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Quote "http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/time"

"Isaac Newton believed that time is continuous, and that it flows at an unchanging rate everywhere in the universe. This was accepted by most scientists until the Michelson-Morley experiment around the end of the 19th century, from which it was discovered that the speed of light is the same regardless of the direction of propagation, and regardless of the motion of the source. Albert Einstein considered this result an axiom, from which he derived the special and general theories of relativity. According to relativistic physics, the rate at which time passes depends on the relative motion between observers, and also on the strength of a gravitational or acceleration field."

Now back to the repulsive topic! :137:
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So 20 minutes before the big bang...?
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It was pretty quiet out there...
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So the Big Bang wasn't actually that big, it just seemed that way in the quiet ?
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Mr. Personality wrote: How can there not be time? Certainly there was a period before the universe began. Unless the big bang includes some sort of giant clock. There has always been time and there will always be time. Whether there's a universe or not is irrelevant.

According to some, “time” is a concept made up by man to explain something he cannot understand. The great physicist, Stephen Hawking, has postulated that time, in fact, began with the “Big Bang”, and conceded to an agnostic colleague (also a physicist) that his theory regarding this idea could support the notion that an infinite God has always existed, will always exist and exists now.

God – another concept made up by man to explain something he cannot understand. However, accepting that one cannot understand something, or dismissing the idea out of hand are two distinctly different conditions. One involves suspending judgement and critical thought. The other does not.
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Mr. Personality wrote:So 20 minutes before the big bang...?

Another idea is that there was an explosion (a really big one) that resulted in the creation of an expanding universe. Of course, this conflicts with the idea of an infinite universe as nothing that is infinite could be expanding, however ....

The idea continues that the universe continues to expand until it stops expanding, and then starts to collapse back in on itself. Of course, this ultimately results in another great big explosion and here we go again - execpt differently this time.
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Glacier wrote:Time has no independent existence. It's a unit of motion. No motion; no time.

No sense...

Of course it makes no sense. The brightest minds in the world don't know what time is or if it exists all because time cannot be physically perceived nor conceptualized mentally. The only way anyone has been about to try to conceptualize it's passing is to think of it has an infinite number of still frames passing by, but even this has problems. The question arises: we differentiate a lot of things with respective to time (eg. acceleration = dv/dt), but what do we differentiate time with respect to?
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Time is a clever ploy to keep everything from happening at once.
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Bsuds wrote:Quote "http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/time"

"Isaac Newton believed that time is continuous, and that it flows at an unchanging rate everywhere in the universe. This was accepted by most scientists until the Michelson-Morley experiment around the end of the 19th century, from which it was discovered that the speed of light is the same regardless of the direction of propagation, and regardless of the motion of the source. Albert Einstein considered this result an axiom, from which he derived the special and general theories of relativity. According to relativistic physics, the rate at which time passes depends on the relative motion between observers, and also on the strength of a gravitational or acceleration field."

Now back to the repulsive topic! :137:


Ah, but the speed of light is not always constant. It will slow down when passed through a diamond and speed up when approaching a black hole.
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