Coming Soon: The Extinction of Religion
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Coming Soon: The Extinction of Religion
Nebula wrote:Biblical prophesies are hocus pocus.
Too bad there wasn't an eleventh commandment: Thou shalt not be gullible.
Believe what you want. Telling us something now that the bible predicted thousands of years ago isn't exactly a winning argument.
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cutter7 wrote:Nebula wrote:Biblical prophesies are hocus pocus.
Too bad there wasn't an eleventh commandment: Thou shalt not be gullible.
Believe what you want. Telling us something now that the bible predicted thousands of years ago isn't exactly a winning argument.
Maybe because they knew that fairy tales only last so long and people would finally open their minds to logic.
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cutter, I'm fairly certain it's your interpretation of what your bible says that appears to be true.
It's quite easy for anyone to make a vague prediction of the future. They're a dime a dozen.
Here's a question for you, cutter: If there is a religion that predates Christianity and that religion's texts contain prophesy that turned out to be roughly true, does that make that religion right?
It's quite easy for anyone to make a vague prediction of the future. They're a dime a dozen.
Here's a question for you, cutter: If there is a religion that predates Christianity and that religion's texts contain prophesy that turned out to be roughly true, does that make that religion right?
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to arrive at.
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Nebula wrote:cutter, I'm fairly certain it's your interpretation of what your bible says that appears to be true.
It's quite easy for anyone to make a vague prediction of the future. They're a dime a dozen.
Here's a question for you, cutter: If there is a religion that predates Christianity and that religion's texts contain prophesy that turned out to be roughly true, does that make that religion right?
Those passages I put up are not my interpretation they are in the bible. How does telling somebody something they believe is going to happen weaken their belief?
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cutter7 wrote:Those passages I put up are not my interpretation they are in the bible.
The bible can be interpreted in countless ways. That is one reason why there are ~ 38 000 different Christian sects. Do you know where your beliefs are in comparison to the others?
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forum wrote:averagejoe wrote:forum wrote: What's in store for us humble humans??
Well let me tell you... what's going to happen. Soon, very soon a world teacher will come forward and all religions will be blended into a One World religion. With this teacher at it's head. He will preach the New Age religion to the world. Christainity must be destroyed for this to happen.
Are you referring to Julian Gerard?
or Richard Dawkins?
Give me something to grab onto Average Joe!
This is what's going to replace all religions.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gkCTHvW0y0
Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.
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Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
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cutter7 wrote:Those passages I put up are not my interpretation they are in the bible. How does telling somebody something they believe is going to happen weaken their belief?
If I make some vague predictions and someone 2,000 years later decides my predictions have become reality, does that make my predictions true or were they just good guesses.
You didn't answer the question about prophesy from pre-Christian religions.
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to arrive at.
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Every religion has prophesies. The Hopi and Mayans had many prophesies that have come true. Christians do not have a monopoly on prophesy, accuracy or the truth. But like the bible prophesies, all are so vague that it can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, especially after the fact. Rarely does anybody make a prediction with any accuracy but most can point to some prophesy after an event.
I people would open their minds beyond their dogmatic beliefs they might see a much larger world out there. Divine inspiration can be found anywhere you choose to look. It is not the soul property of some ancient book handed down by desert goat herders.
I people would open their minds beyond their dogmatic beliefs they might see a much larger world out there. Divine inspiration can be found anywhere you choose to look. It is not the soul property of some ancient book handed down by desert goat herders.
Trying to get spiritual nourishment from a two thousand year old book is like trying to suck milk from the breast of a woman who has been dead that long.
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Nebula wrote:cutter7 wrote:Those passages I put up are not my interpretation they are in the bible. How does telling somebody something they believe is going to happen weaken their belief?
If I make some vague predictions and someone 2,000 years later decides my predictions have become reality, does that make my predictions true or were they just good guesses.
You didn't answer the question about prophesy from pre-Christian religions.
I didn't answer because it has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. Regardless of the religion or the time period it's still the same.
People who believe the bible know that they will be persecuted for their beliefs they also know that a sign of the end of days is people leaving the church.
Just as a tide book is a mariners bible it tells him what the tide will be doing at the end of the year. are you going to be in awe of an especially low tide in dec while the mariner sits there shaking his head saying tell me something I didn't already know?
Maybe all the non believers are happy with the fact that people are leaving the church but the christians have been expecting it.
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And when the world continues on no messiah arrives and life goes on, will those same Christians question the original prophesy? Likely not.
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to arrive at.
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Nebula wrote:And when the world continues on no messiah arrives and life goes on, will those same Christians question the original prophesy? Likely not.
All I know is pointing out things that are happening as predicted in the bible won't weaken their faith only strengthen it.
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I get what you're saying, cutter.
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to arrive at.
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I have encountered numerous references to a trend of increased numbers of those holding spiritual beliefs, and that decline in numbers of "religious" flowers is more common among christian sects than other religions. I don't think christian churches losing their followers is an indication that those followers are "abandoning God" as much as it is an indication that those churches experiencing the decline have lost touch with the needs of their congregation.
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-fluffy- wrote:I have encountered numerous references to a trend of increased numbers of those holding spiritual beliefs, and that decline in numbers of "religious" flowers is more common among christian sects than other religions. I don't think christian churches losing their followers is an indication that those followers are "abandoning God" as much as it is an indication that those churches experiencing the decline have lost touch with the needs of their congregation.
I think that is probably the most accurate assessment.
Trying to get spiritual nourishment from a two thousand year old book is like trying to suck milk from the breast of a woman who has been dead that long.
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-fluffy- wrote:I have encountered numerous references to a trend of increased numbers of those holding spiritual beliefs, and that decline in numbers of "religious" flowers is more common among christian sects than other religions. I don't think christian churches losing their followers is an indication that those followers are "abandoning God" as much as it is an indication that those churches experiencing the decline have lost touch with the needs of their congregation.
Makes sense to me although i've always found it funny how people think the church should conform to what they want.
I can't help but laugh when people get mad about having to comply with what the church wants when they want to get married in a church. don't like their rules? go to a court house.