Brainwashing Christian Children: Scary.

[forum]

Please give this article a read. It touches on some of the reasoning why men created god.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... 2260.story

[fluffy]

It touches on some of the reasoning why men created god.

I thought you had always maintained that God didn't exist, now you're talking about where he came from. Geez, make up your mind. :127:

[forum]

It touches on some of the reasoning why men created god.

I thought you had always maintained that God didn't exist, now you're talking about where he came from. Geez, make up your mind. :127:

Yeah. Basically what the article says is that I made god. Now you see him, now you don't! *poof*

[forum]

I thought you had always maintained that God didn't exist, now you're talking about where he came from. Geez, make up your mind. :127:

Yeah. Basically what the article says is that I made god. Now you see him, now you don't! Now I need him, now I don't *poof*

[fluffy]

That is an interesting read. The idea that God is a human construct sits pretty easy with me, I never could get cosy with the traditional, "supreme being" concept, it's much easier to look at it as a metaphorical representation of the good half of the whole right/wrong/good/evil issue that we all share.

[forum]

Here is some more Christians trying their best to brainwash innocent children. Disgusting. http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/Edmonto ... story.html

[Mr. Personality]

I don't know if I'd call that "disgusting"
Wrong, sure. Misguided, absolutely. Arrogant, you bet. Dangerous, potentially.
But not disgusting.

[forum]

They are mimicking the behavior of a pedophile to attract and persuade young children. Disgusting.

[Mr. Personality]

They are doing what obviously works for their intentions. Wrong, Misguided, Arrogant, Dangerous.

[fluffy]

They are mimicking the behavior of a pedophile to attract and persuade young children. Disgusting.

Great. He plays the pedophile card. What's next? Hitler? It's becoming more apparent with every post that your intentions here are not to discuss, or even "educate" as you put it. Your lack of constructive contributions to any of these threads is hollering out "troll" loud and clear, and is every bit as inappropriate as recruiting religious converts among children in a public playground.

[hellomynameis]

Christians and paedophiles and Hitler, oh my!
Christians and paedophiles and Hitler, oh my!
err, I mean
Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!


Let me split the difference between the two of you.

I agree with fluffy when she(?) says that playing the paedophilia card is wrong. At best it's a subjective association or an empty rhetorical tool that further corrupts an act (giving candy to kids as a bribe) that has already been abused by paedophiles. You wouldn't say a parent bribing their kid with candy is mimicking a paedophile.

But I also agree with forum's use of the word disgusting to describe the event. I can readily visualize myself in that scene and the first emotion that springs up is disgust.

Disgust:
1. to cause loathing or nausea in.
2.to offend the good taste, moral sense, etc., of; cause extreme dislike or revulsion.

I find the act of plying a religious belief, through casual bribes especially, onto children to be quite disgusting. I'd be happy to elaborate but that would make for a rather long post.

[forum]

Christians and paedophiles and Hitler, oh my!
Christians and paedophiles and Hitler, oh my!
err, I mean

You wouldn't say a parent bribing their kid with candy is mimicking a paedophile.

But I also agree with forum's use of the word disgusting to describe the event. I can readily visualize myself in that scene and the first emotion that springs up is disgust.

Disgust:
1. to cause loathing or nausea in.
2.to offend the good taste, moral sense, etc., of; cause extreme dislike or revulsion.

I find the act of plying a religious belief, through casual bribes especially, onto children to be quite disgusting. I'd be happy to elaborate but that would make for a rather long post.

Pedophiles have used the candy tactic for years to quickly persuade children and gain their trust. It is a disgusting trick used to get a child to comply with you. I would say that a stranger entering a playground and offering children candy to perform something for them teaches children a behavior pattern that could lead them into serious trouble someday. I am disgusted by the Christians tactics as I would be if an Atheist they did the same. But you don't see Atheists using candy or other manipulative methods. No they use fossil records, logic and reason. The Christians never consulted the children's parents before approaching, as if the parents didn't matter. You see, religious people have the mentality that they are doing the work of god. Therefore they feel other adults need not be consulted while they 'perform their work'. The work of god to them speaks above everything. Which is of course wrong.

Eventually these behaviour patterns become larger problems such as this:
http://www.toledoblade.com/Religion/201 ... group.html

[Mr. Personality]

I love how "Victory Christian Center" becomes

the Christians

[fluffy]

[ But you don't see Atheists using candy or other manipulative methods.

Watch television much? Read a magazine lately? These are common strategies everywhere these days to get someone else to do what you want them to, be it buy, join, vote, or whatever. Manipulation is pervasive is society today, a common tool readily picked up by just about anyone, religious and non-religious alike. Kind of like you playing on fears of pedophilia to forward your smear campaign against religious thought. It's all just lowbrow tactics aimed at bending others to your will.

[hellomynameis]

Pedophiles have used the candy tactic for years to quickly persuade children and gain their trust. It is a disgusting trick used to get a child to comply with you.

What I'm disagreeing with here is your own form of manipulation, what I am calling a rhetorical tool. Bribing children with candy isn't exactly a savoury ploy but to bring in the scare word "paedophile" into the equation isn't helping your argument. Using scare words is a rhetorical tool and is quite unsavoury itself.


Frankly I don't see why the behaviour of the christian couple in the quoted news article needs any kind of rethoric, it disgusts solely on its own merits.