Brainwashing Christian Children: Scary.

[steven lloyd]

Atheists aren't seeking money or power when we educate religious people. We are simple saying "Hey man, get with the program. God is no longer necessary, god no longer fits into the equation."

“We” ? Actually, I suspect the vast majority of atheists are not so fearful and insecure that they need to be that concerned about the religious or spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) of others. I suppose, however, that just as there are those religious zealots who feel threatened by those who do not believe as they do, there are also atheistic zealots who feel threatened for the same reasons. I mean, it really doesn’t get much more desperate than coming onto a discussion board and making it your life mission to criticize people who’s spiritual beliefs are different from your own simplistic understanding. A more sound belief system would more likely recruit more new members through attraction rather than promotion. Certainly, anyone who is really self-assured in their beliefs would not need to expend so much time and energy justifying and defending them, or in criticizing others.

[Driscoll]

Atheists aren't seeking money or power when we educate religious people. We are simple saying "Hey man, get with the program. God is no longer necessary, god no longer fits into the equation."

“We” ? Actually, I suspect the vast majority of atheists are not so fearful and insecure that they need to be that concerned about the religious or spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) of others. I suppose, however, that just as there are those religious zealots who feel threatened by those who do not believe as they do, there are also atheistic zealots who feel threatened for the same reasons. I mean, it really doesn’t get much more desperate than coming onto a discussion board and making it your life mission to criticize people who’s spiritual beliefs are different from your own simplistic understanding. A more sound belief system would more likely recruit more new members through attraction rather than promotion. Certainly, anyone who is really self-assured in their beliefs would not need to expend so much time and energy justifying and defending them, or in criticizing others.

In contrast, what do religious zealots do?

[forum]

Atheists aren't seeking money or power when we educate religious people. We are simple saying "Hey man, get with the program. God is no longer necessary, god no longer fits into the equation."

“We” ? Actually, I suspect the vast majority of atheists are not so fearful and insecure that they need to be that concerned about the religious or spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) of others. I suppose, however, that just as there are those religious zealots who feel threatened by those who do not believe as they do, there are also atheistic zealots who feel threatened for the same reasons. I mean, it really doesn’t get much more desperate than coming onto a discussion board and making it your life mission to criticize people who’s spiritual beliefs are different from your own simplistic understanding. A more sound belief system would more likely recruit more new members through attraction rather than promotion. Certainly, anyone who is really self-assured in their beliefs would not need to expend so much time and energy justifying and defending them, or in criticizing others.

I still stand confident with everything I've said. Your input on the subject is petty and weak Steven Lloyd.

[averagejoe]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

[wthwyt]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no were near.
The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

[averagejoe]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no were near.
The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

[wthwyt]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no were near.

The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

So this conversation is over I don't deal with homophobe like yourself.

[averagejoe]

:sunshine:

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no were near.

The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

So this conversation is over I don't deal with homophobe like yourself.

Thanks wthwyt!! I'm sure your putting your house up for sale as we speak! I would suggest San Fransico because of your beliefs. Practise what you preach!

[WhatThe]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no
were near.
The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

this little comment crossed the line. Take a lookin the mirror, if it wasn't for people like you thre would beno need for classes for the classless

[Mr. Personality]

Atheists aren't seeking money or power when we educate religious people. We are simple saying "Hey man, get with the program. God is no longer necessary, god no longer fits into the equation."

“We” ? Actually, I suspect the vast majority of atheists are not so fearful and insecure that they need to be that concerned about the religious or spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) of others. I suppose, however, that just as there are those religious zealots who feel threatened by those who do not believe as they do, there are also atheistic zealots who feel threatened for the same reasons. I mean, it really doesn’t get much more desperate than coming onto a discussion board and making it your life mission to criticize people who’s spiritual beliefs are different from your own simplistic understanding. A more sound belief system would more likely recruit more new members through attraction rather than promotion. Certainly, anyone who is really self-assured in their beliefs would not need to expend so much time and energy justifying and defending them, or in criticizing others.

In contrast, what do religious zealots do?

The same things Atheistic zealots do.
One is no better than the other, and both are nuts.

[averagejoe]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no
were near.
The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

this little comment crossed the line. Take a lookin the mirror, if it wasn't for people like you thre would beno need for classes for the classless

Practise what you preach. Be a leader and show your convictions. Don't be such a hypocrite! It's ok if other peoples kids are indoctornated with gay teachings. But just not yours. Right?

[Mr. Personality]

I'm sorry. Did you just imply homosexuals are pedophiles with that "hands on" comment?
I just want to be sure. If not, what did you mean?

[WhatThe]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1[/quote

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no
were near.
The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

this little comment crossed the line. Take a lookin the mirror, if it wasn't for people like you thre would beno need for classes

for the classless

Practise what you preach. Be a leader and show your convictions. Don't be such a hypocrite! It's ok if other peoples kids are indoctornated with gay teachings. But just not yours. Right?

huh? Gay teachings ? What the hell is that?
Look through every topic on glbtq and show me any of my posts that are hypocritical. You won't find one.
I don't care what people do, until it starts hurting others. And inflammatory comments such as yours and belief systems such as yours create a lot of hurt for those that are of gay persuasion.

[averagejoe]

Is this a form of State Brainwashing?

California governor (Moonbeam Jerry Brown) signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history!

"It is an outrage that Governor Jerry Brown has opened the classroom door for homosexual activists to indoctrinate the minds of California's youth, since no factual materials would be allowed to be presented," Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman and founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a statement.

"If parents don't already have their children out of public schools, this should cause them to remove them," he said.

Read more....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14/califo ... ?hpt=hp_t1[/quote

averagejoe this bill is about being more open minded & accepting which some christian denomination are, others no
were near.
The non-open minded = mostly evangelicals & catholic's.

I'm sure wthwyt you'll be moving down to California to enroll your children in those classes this Sept. I'm sure there will be lots of hands on sessions. If you know what I mean.

this little comment crossed the line. Take a lookin the mirror, if it wasn't for people like you thre would beno need for classes

for the classless

Practise what you preach. Be a leader and show your convictions. Don't be such a hypocrite! It's ok if other peoples kids are indoctornated with gay teachings. But just not yours. Right?

huh? Gay teachings ? What the hell is that?
Look through every topic on glbtq and show me any of my posts that are hypocritical. You won't find one.
I don't care what people do, until it starts hurting others. And inflammatory comments such as yours and belief systems such as yours create a lot of hurt for those that are of gay persuasion.

You missed my posting...California governor signs bill requiring schools to teach gay history. So if your in full support in the gay lifestyle. Then you should move to California so your children can be educated glbtq history. But you won't because your a hypocrite. It' for other people. Right?

[Mr. Personality]

You're saying everyone who agrees with California's decision is a hypocrite if they don't move there?