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I think Roadstar has a point. What does the Quran say about some of the subjects being brought up? fib just keeps saying that those who commit violence are not true Muslims, but I know a Muslim who lives in Iraq and he posted a lot of quote from the Quran that proved otherwise. He felt these things were justified by the Quran. What I have seen fib say is more or less a whitewash of what the Quran says and either he is lying to us or he is not that well read in the Quran.

I talked to this guy in Iraq for almost three years. He eventually blew a gasket (threatening to kill them) on somebody on another forum I am on, and was banned.
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Roadster wrote:
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Roadster wrote:K, how do you ask questions then,,, just what he know from a book?


I have mostly just been reading this thread but I believe the topic is what is causing this turmoil. If the topic were to be named questions about the Quran Fibbs answers IMO would be accurate. However, if the topic is, what some muslims believe and do it would be a completely different thread. This should be clarified now so we can move on with fibbs answers. Perhaps Roadster should start another thread?

Ok so in other words, just let Fibs tell us the pretty stuff but dont ask,,, gotcha :D


That is not what I said. If you want to know what the Quran teaches, we can quote it. If you want to know how a Muslim behaves, you should ask each of them. No two Christians behave exactly the same, neither do two Hindus, two Buddhists, or two atheists.
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Look, I've answered the question on jihad and terrorism several times now. I explained how it started. I posted documentaries for all of you to study. Roadster just neglect my replies, and posts a series of new posts discussing the very same points I addressed. There was one post with a news article talking about an individual bringing a bomb onto the plane and says, why do Muslims do this. It's because they're hypocrites, roadster. How many times do I have to say. They are hypocrites.

Ask the questions once, and read my answer. If you feel my answer is not enough, then give specifics based on my answers. We can discuss everything in more details. I've been following this religion a lot longer that most of the folks here, so I know what I'm talking about. The media is promoting Islamaphobia to convince the population to accept the coming global war in the middle east. You are going to see even more negative news about "Muslims".

cliffy1 wrote:I think Roadstar has a point. What does the Quran say about some of the subjects being brought up? fib just keeps saying that those who commit violence are not true Muslims, but I know a Muslim who lives in Iraq and he posted a lot of quote from the Qur'an that proved otherwise. He felt these things were justified by the Quran. What I have seen fib say is more or less a whitewash of what the Qur'an says and either he is lying to us or he is not that well read in the Quran.

I talked to this guy in Iraq for almost three years. He eventually blew a gasket (threatening to kill them) on somebody on another forum I am on, and was banned.


Ask this Iraqi, if he believes that stoning is allowed in Islam. If he says yes, then he hasn't read the Qur'an correctly. He is being ignorant about the religion and he's finding a way to justify his violent tendencies. It is as simple as that.
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fibonacci wrote:Ask this Iraqi, if he believes that stoning is allowed in Islam. If he says yes, then he hasn't read the Qur'an correctly. He is being ignorant about the religion and he's finding a way to justify his violent tendencies. It is as simple as that.

This man was a doctor and for the most part a gentle man, very patient, but after many years of putting up with the constant harassment from some posters, he blew up one day. He meticulously posted quotes from the Quran and there explanations.

I personally could make no sense from any of it but what I gathered from our conversations was that if you don't know how to read Arabic you won't really get it. According to him, most, if not all, English translations are inaccurate. What I gathered from it was that the book was written for the people of the region, but like most religions it became corrupted into a political movement for world domination. Perhaps the teachings are good. I don't know because I could make no sense out of the translations I was presented, and they were, according to this guy, the best available.

I really don't have any interest in religion of any kind. I believe the spiritual journey is a very personal one, but I am curious why people believe the stuff they do. I also realize that most of the misconceptions about Islam in the west are due to the demonization of Muslims by the western media to justify attacking and killing them.
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hi,
my question is:
what is the most persecuted religion in the world and who is the persecutor?
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Why do Muslims start threads then chicken out?
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because there seems to be only one response to every question:

"the bad muslims understand Islam all wrong and are therefore irrelevant to any further discussion...while we good muslims have it right".

good thing we got that all straightened-out.

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An attractive woman in v-neck t-shirt walked by and he lost his train of thought?
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nickd wrote:Why do Muslims start threads then chicken out?


I stop making posts here, because I felt that some of the users here are not ready to have an intelligent or serious discussion about the social degradation that we are seeing here in the west.

Most of you folks don't know why divorce levels are at an all time high, or why almost everyone is becoming single and most likely childless (http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/ ... oing-solo/) or why we are paying high taxes to support a gigantic welfare state that was voted in by a bunch of adults that were illegitimate when they were young and don't have strong family connections that can help them out.

Most of you don't know why men are lazy and becoming too passive. Or why women are becoming more promiscuous and dressing more provocatively than ever before (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... ts-photos/).

Today, people are having sex in public (http://nymag.com/nightlife/mating/29981/), in front of children actually...and most of you folks can't see with your eyes the incremental decay in social and cultural values.

Some of you folks don't even know why pedophilia is being promoted in movies and magazines (http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... OttawaHome).

According to some in this thread, having an economy that thrives mainly on pornography, prostitution, gambling, alcohol, drugs, entertainment, speculative banking, superficial goods and services...etc. is not a big problem at all.

Once some of the people here start to grow up and are ready to talk about the real problems we are facing here in the WEST --- NOT the MIDDLE EAST or 'terrorism'----------I'll be more than happy, to give you folks some answers from an Islamic perspective.
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fibonacci wrote:I stop making posts here, because I felt that some of the users here are not ready to have an intelligent or serious discussion about the social degradation that we are seeing here in the west.

Most of you folks don't know why divorce levels are at an all time high, or why almost everyone is becoming single and most likely childless (http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/ ... oing-solo/) or why we are paying high taxes to support a gigantic welfare state that was voted in by a bunch of adults that were illegitimate when they were young and don't have strong family connections that can help them out.

You post crap like the above paragraph and accuse other posters on the forums of not being ready for an intelligent or serious discussion? Do get real. Look in the mirror next time you want to point fingers.
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So, Fibonacci, what are your thoughts on gay rights?
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