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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda

Re: The BCE God called Ahura Mazda and his fallen angel nemesis,Angra Mainyu.

"Nonetheless, Ahura Mazda is Angra Mainyu's superior, not his equal. Angra Mainyu and his daevas (spirits) which attempt to attract humans away from the path of righteousness (asha) would eventually be destroyed."
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And that has to do with the topic because...?
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And then there's this little gem from the same region of the world.

The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh dates back nearly 5,000 years and is thought to be perhaps the oldest written tale on the planet. In it, there is an account of the great sage Utnapishtim, who is warned of an imminent flood to be unleashed by wrathful gods. He builds a vast circular-shaped boat, reinforced with tar and pitch, that carries his relatives, grains and animals. After enduring days of storms, Utnapishtim, like Noah in Genesis, releases a bird in search of dry land.
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Hmm, two different stories of the same event. There must be some truth to it.
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Yeah, that's why all the geophysicist journals publish so many articles confirming a world flood event.

Oh, wait. That never happens.

No evidence of it.
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Healthyskeptic wrote:Yeah, that's why all the geophysicist journals publish so many articles confirming a world flood event.

Oh, wait. That never happens.

No evidence of it.

I think the origins of the flood story go back to the melting of the glaciers after the last ice age. Today, 90% of the human population lives in close proximity to the oceans. During the last ice age the sea levels were 400 feet lower than they are today. The ice age lasted a very long time, time enough to build civilizations. They are finding more evidence of drowned civilizations under the sea. When the ice melted, the sea levels rose all over the northern hemisphere inundating most of the civilizations that existed for millennium, unless, of course, you think that the Earth is only 6000 years old.
Evidence was found off the coast of the Queen Charlotte islands of human occupation at a depth off 160 feet below sea level by archaeologists a little over a decade ago proving that the Bering Straight land bridge theory was bogus, that humans were traveling back and forth between American continent and Asia by land along the coast. This would also explain that the flood story is much older than the chronicles of Gilgamesh.
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Healthyskeptic wrote:Yeah, that's why all the geophysicist journals publish so many articles confirming a world flood event.

I find it ironic that you of all people cite geophysicists when you're the one that loves conspiracy theories, and supports theories that experts laugh at. Furthermore, when scientists realize they are mistaken they say so, and change their minds. You, on the other hand, have never admitted once when you've been caught red handed peddling known falsehoods. If you cannot change your mind even on small little details, you're following the most dogmatic of religions.
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For your information- geophysics is taught at UBC and other universities.

https://www.eoas.ubc.ca/academic/career ... -geop.html

It's the science that disproves 'young earth' creationist nonsense.
And the flood story.
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Glacier wrote:Hmm, two different stories of the same event. There must be some truth to it.

This is Christian logic at its best.

There are 7 Harry Potter books, millions of readers worldwide and even supporting Fan Literature.

Harry Potter must really exist then, right?

Multiple accounts makes the story 200% true!
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It was a joke, though it is highly likely that a flood of some kind did occur since 100s of different cultures around the world have their own flood myth.
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Maybe there are 3 reasons, or more, to leave a church.

#1. You no longer believe the supernatural claims.
#2. You've noticed that science and skeptic inquiry comes up with more real solutions to human problems.
#3. You've noticed that in the real world, Christians aren't demonstrably better than others with differing faith or no faith.

Even The clergy have help to leave.
http://clergyproject.org
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Many people leave and many people stay. If you have questions and want to read factual books written by and for ex-theists.
A great list of books here.
http://clergyproject.org/resources-for- ... ular-mind/
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