A Creator is Evident

[zzontar]

It's really not so difficult to believe, or understand, why certain species remained so similar to their ancestors. Their form and function happened to work well and they were able to adapt to changing climate and landscapes with very little evolution in their form.

Not magical design....just science.

What's hard to believe is that the first "prototype" was the most advanced, so it didn't have to change for tens of millions of years besides the size. I find no science that backs that.

[Farmmaa]

That seems to have worked since there's been Pandas and Koalas... so what's the problem?

You mean...the Pandas that are endangered ?
and the Koalas that are dwindling due to lack of natural resources ?

Yep. working very well.

[zzontar]

You mean...the Pandas that are endangered ?
and the Koalas that are dwindling due to lack of natural resources ?

Yep. working very well.

I'd say people are the problem, but you have the choice to think it must be the planet.

http://qz.com/259355/humans-are-wiping- ... -new-ones/

Humans are wiping out species a thousand times faster than nature can create new ones

[SmokeOnTheWater]

I'd say people are the problem, but you have the choice to think it must be the planet.

Of course human beings are the problem.
Why aren't they perfect ?

[Farmmaa]

What's hard to believe is that the first "prototype" was the most advanced, so it didn't have to change for tens of millions of years besides the size. I find no science that backs that.

You are aware, I'm sure, that the prehistoric form of dragonflies were not the original prototype...right ?
Like everything else on earth, they evolved into that form over millions of years.

There are a lot of life forms that haven't evolved all that much because how they lived, how they functioned, how they survived, did not need to change dramatically to accommodate survival in the changing world.

There is, in fact, plenty of science to back it up.

[Farmmaa]

I'd say people are the problem, but you have the choice to think it must be the planet.

http://qz.com/259355/humans-are-wiping- ... -new-ones/

Humans are wiping out species a thousand times faster than nature can create new ones

It makes no difference WHY...the point is, if they had been divinely created, they should have been built to be able to survive on a variety of different food sources to increase their chances of survival.

[zzontar]

Some people believe there couldn't be a God that has been around forever with no beginning, yet believe all the elements that make up the Earth have been. Some think there's no way a greater power was responsible for the vast diversity of life here, but believe a lightning strike into a primordial soup was easily the cause. It's the way it is.

[Farmmaa]

Some people believe there couldn't be a God that has been around forever with no beginning, yet believe all the elements that make up the Earth have been. Some think there's no way a greater power was responsible for the vast diversity of life here, but believe a lightning strike into a primordial soup was easily the cause. It's the way it is.

The point of the OP was that everything on earth and in the universe is so perfectly designed, that this is evidence of a creator.

Some of us think that's a whole lot of bull and that the 'design' of the earth itself, along with so many of the creatures that call it home, are far from perfectly designed in any way, shape or form.

[maryjane48]

Some people believe there couldn't be a God that has been around forever with no beginning, yet believe all the elements that make up the Earth have been. Some think there's no way a greater power was responsible for the vast diversity of life here, but believe a lightning strike into a primordial soup was easily the cause. It's the way it is.

that is not the theory anymore , it is now believed that comets and other objects brought life to earth.now to go lil off topic but not really , you do realize i hope that quantum mechanics proves something can pop out of nothing and happens everyday .



infact everything on earth came from star at some point and since most god stories really are ways to explain the sun , they were on to something

[Donald G]

To zzontar ...

WADR there are people and animals in the world who, by their very inability to fit into a normal world, make the case for evolution. *removed*

[Poindexter]

Everything we look at in nature, in the universe, is an intelligent design, Created. Logical reasoning 101, there must be an all knowing Creator or God.

Hopefully your Logical Reasoning 101 course taught you the difference between a hypothesis and a theory. Creationism is at best a hypothesis based on zero evidence while evolution is a theory that's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt with DNA analysis. No question about it anymore.

Edited because I'm feeling festive.

[I Think]

Humans have evolved.
eg; 15000 years ago most humans were lactose intolerant, then people began raising cattle which gave us milk.
Because milk was one of the few reliable foods available year round, the lactose intolerant people died off due to nutrition that was not available to them. Lactose tolerant people are now a huge majority and if my understanding of genetics is accurate, lactose intolerance is recessive.

Birds have evolved there is a species of birds which used to summer in England and winter in southern Europe, some of the birds stopped migrating, because they were being fed. There has now become two species which cannot intermate, this has happened during my lifetime.

Evolution is difficult to observe in long lived animals such as humans, in fruit flies, microbes, viruses etc it is easy to observe.

[maryjane48]

*removed*

[Glacier]

Humans have evolved.
eg; 15000 years ago most humans were lactose intolerant, then people began raising cattle which gave us milk.
Because milk was one of the few reliable foods available year round, the lactose intolerant people died off due to nutrition that was not available to them. Lactose tolerant people are now a huge majority and if my understanding of genetics is accurate, lactose intolerance is recessive.

Lactose intolerance is quite prevalent today. It is not usually fatal, so people won't die off who have it. It's more of a spectrum than a genetic mutation since lactose intolerance is related to the amount of lactase enzyme you have in your body, not on whether you have lactase at all.

[OREZ]

evolution is a theory that's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt with DNA analysis. No question about it anymore.

Could you explain what you mean by that? How has DNA analysis proven the theory of evolution?