Christ the Lord Has Risen Today!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRV-vskr1Nc

Video - Mithras temple in London.
2000 year old Mithras temple with many statues and artifacts uncovered in London in 1950's.

Fun facts- who had a Heavenly Father?
Who was worshipped in order to obtain an Eternal Afterlife?
Who was worshipped in all the Roman Territories- from Hadrian's Wall to Israel?

Hmmmm.
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Don't care - my folks went to church - I've been. Great people there. Everyone wants to help everyone else.
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Farmmaa wrote:
Mormons don't believe that Jesus was in North American when he was between 12-30 years old - they believe he cruised over here after he was resurrected.
Therefore - not relevant to the article because it was not the same time period.


LOL and what's your point?
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A very good BBC Documentary on Mithras. A saviour God sent by his father.
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Mithraism was practised from the 1st century to the 4th century, so clearly Jesus wasn't made up from Mithraism. Obviously many traditions and customs go back and forth between cultures and even religions. This is because good ideas are worth spreading. This goes for secular ideas and religious ideas.
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Glacier wrote:Mithraism was practised from the 1st century to the 4th century, so clearly Jesus wasn't made up from Mithraism. Obviously many traditions and customs go back and forth between cultures and even religions. This is because good ideas are worth spreading. This goes for secular ideas and religious ideas.

"Zoroastrianism is one of the world's oldest monotheistic religions. It was founded by the Prophet Zoroaster in ancient Iran approximately 3500 years ago." - http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/zoroastrian/

Mithra goes back a long way before Jesus.

1) Hundreds of years before Jesus, according to the Mithraic religion, three Wise Men of Persia came to visit the baby savior-god Mithra, bring him gifts of gold, myrrh and frankincense.

2) Mithra was born on December 25 as told in the “Great Religions of the World”, page 330; “…it was the winter solstice celebrated by ancients as the birthday of Mithraism’s sun god”.

3) According to Mithraism, before Mithra died on a cross, he celebrated a “Last Supper with his twelve disciples, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac.

4) After the death of Mithra, his body was laid to rest in a rock tomb.

5) Mithra had a celibate priesthood.

6) Mithra ascended into heaven during the spring (Passover) equinox (the time when the sun crosses the equator making night and day of equal length). - http://jdstone.org/cr/files/mithraschristianity.html
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The basic argument is that the Bible was stolen from pagan stories because Christian traditions today that have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible prove this.

For example: "Church Fathers found this religion of Mithras very disturbing , as there are so many similarities between the two religions, as follows: .... Mithra was born on December 25"

If they found that disturbing, why did they celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th? They chose to have it around the time of other pagan festivals including Mithras. The Catholic church is famous for adopting Christianity into the local pagan traditions. These traditions like December 25th, gift giving, Christmas trees, etc. are not Christian concepts, and have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible or the teachings of Jesus.
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Glacier wrote:The basic argument is that the Bible was stolen from pagan stories because Christian traditions today that have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible prove this.

I was just debunking your assertion the Mithra myth was younger than the Jesus myth. Nice dodge though.
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There are many lost gospels because there were many versions of 'events' in his life and what 'he' said and how to follow the myth, the man ...Jesus.
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Liar, lunatic or God.

Or there's another explanation of what people believe about Jesus.
He's a myth. Syncretism of earlier myths.

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I do not say that there is not a central core of some kind in the Universe that some people call God but I do say emphatically that not one person on Earth understands what that may be if that central control in fact exists.

Certainly none of the current crop of gods comes anywhere close. All are mythical in the same way that the 2000 or so religions and gods that came before them are myths. As time passes our current religious myths will be recognized as such and new "true" gods will rise and give people a new placebo to hold onto.

It has always been so. Humans have always needed a mental way to create a way to explain that that they do not understand or are afraid of.

I see little harm in it except for the extremist believers in each religion.
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cliffy1 wrote:I was just debunking your assertion the Mithra myth was younger than the Jesus myth. Nice dodge though.

I never said that. I was talking about Mithraism.
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christianity came from egypt and it is proved out by homes of christians in egypt showing clear signs of the christians worshiping egypts gods and christian gods at same time . why would they do that if it wasnt a transition of sorts ?
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Unread postby maryjane48 » Yesterday, 9:50 pm

christianity came from egypt


It did ??

371 false statements vs 3 accurate statements to date.

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Christianity originated in Roman occupied Jerusalem, a predominantly but not entirely Jewish society, with traditional philosophies distinct from the Classical Greek thought which was dominant in the greater Roman Empire at the time.
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Egyptians were certainly some of the earliest converts.

But.."Many of the concepts of Christianity were already familiar to the Egyptians from their ancient religion, such as the death and resurrection of a god, the idea of the judgement of souls and a paradisiacal afterlife for the faithful."
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