Re: Do Christians
Posted: Jan 12th, 2018, 8:09 am
Ka-El wrote:Well, I would claim our species is not capable of understanding what God is. We cannot even agree on a definition (see posts by fluffy). In fact, it is those people who presume to understand God and “His message” for everyone else that I take issue with. I know for a fact that I will not, in this lifetime anyway, understand what God is, but I don’t just dismiss the infinite possibilities – some as proposed by fluffy. Hmmm. Maybe I’m the agnostic (except I do have absolute faith that there is something, some unifying, universal phenomena that is, and likely will always be, beyond our understanding).
Well, the definition of a god has shifted and will continue to do so. Today it might be some universal energy that connects us, whereas there was a day when the (now outdated) god was thought to be a male figure acting like a puppet master. In 100 years, what will people think god is? Maybe it will shift so far as to be something that can be proved or disproved. Maybe the whole faith part of it will drop off and it will be more about facts. To this, I say that there may come a day when this sort of god could be understood and defined. And if it does become something less about an intelligent diety or puppet master, I suspect some atheists may lend a little more attention to the concept.
youjustcomplain wrote:I also do believe there is no god. I just simply don't believe.
Ka-El wrote:Wondering if you might clarify what you mean by this?
Sorry, I read that again and wondered what I was trying to say. whooops.
What it was supposed to say is:
I also don't believe there is no god. I just simply don't believe.
So it's not a matter of me believing there is no god. That requires belief. I only mean that I don't believe. Both would make me an atheist, but my lack of belief could be interpretted as being agnostic, as you've done. I just don't feel agnostic on the issue of a god.