Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby 1nick » Nov 18th, 2018, 11:38 pm

That’s rich coming from you.

It‘s up to you joe, go back and read the links posted in numerous threads.

Do it more opened minded this time and with your nose out of that book.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Btfsplck » Nov 19th, 2018, 8:42 am

It's incredible how, despite the overwhelming evidence, some people refuse to accept the TOE.
Reading some of their reasoning is laughable at best, and troubling at worst. It's as if they never took a science class.
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Who cares if Darwin did or didn't become a christian on his deathbed. To anybody but the small minded, it makes absolutely no difference.

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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Ka-El » Nov 19th, 2018, 9:04 am

averagejoe wrote: Image
This map shows migration out of Africa from 200,000 to 150,000 years ago

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then we have 150,000 to 100,000 years ago

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Then we have 130,000 years ago

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Here we have 100,000 years ago

Very intriguing maps of human migration joe. Notwithstanding your goofy little picture of caveman walking out of the water (you really think it happened that way - LOLOLOL) what does this have to do with physical evolution? By the time this migration began hundreds of millions of years of physical evolution had been occurring. Where do you get some of these ideas? Watching reruns of Fred Flintstone? Quit watching cartoons. You're really making yourself look silly again.

*for the heck of it, why not register for a class in physical anthropology and educate yourself.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Glacier » Nov 19th, 2018, 11:15 am

Who cares if Darwin converted.

If someone recants, converts, or the like, that has no bearing on what they did in their life. If Isaac Newton declared on his death bed that gravity is a Russian hoax, that would not have any bearing on the truth about what he discovered about gravity. It would only show that he got mushy in his old age.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Ka-El » Nov 19th, 2018, 11:57 am

averagejoe wrote: You aren't very educated ...
Oh by the way is it 1.9 million years ago or 45,000 years ago evolution started?

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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Omnitheo » Nov 19th, 2018, 1:21 pm

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

If Joe is making the extraordinary claim that the accepted understanding of evolution is false, along with entire fields of biology, forensics, medicines, agriculture. He needs to provide extraordinary evidence demonstrating so.

If he can, a Nobel Prize is in his future.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby youjustcomplain » Nov 19th, 2018, 1:43 pm

Darwin's Theory of Evolution is the widely held notion that all life is related and has descended from a common ancestor: the birds and the bananas, the fishes and the flowers -- all related. Darwin's general theory presumes the development of life from non-life and stresses a purely naturalistic (undirected) "descent with modification". That is, complex creatures evolve from more simplistic ancestors naturally over time. In a nutshell, as random genetic mutations occur within an organism's genetic code, the beneficial mutations are preserved because they aid survival -- a process known as "natural selection." These beneficial mutations are passed on to the next generation. Over time, beneficial mutations accumulate and the result is an entirely different organism (not just a variation of the original, but an entirely different creature).


The source of that is from a website I just read through. I think it's important to be sure we're all talking about the same thing.

As has been said numerous times by numerous people in many different threads about this, the Theory of Evolution does *NOT* explain how life started. It doesn't try to. It presumes that this happened and goes from there.

If anyone can't accept that minor changes to an organism CAN be passed on to their offspring, then there really is nothing more to say about it. It's just denial of what is all around them; the products of millions of years of evolution.

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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Ka-El » Nov 19th, 2018, 1:58 pm

youjustcomplain wrote: As has been said numerous times by numerous people in many different threads about this, the Theory of Evolution does *NOT* explain how life started. It doesn't try to. It presumes that this happened and goes from there.

Likewise with theories of human migration. Evolution has been occurring for a far longer period.

Yes, there is a great variation amongst theories - especially when you start throwing in theories that have minimal relation.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Glacier » Nov 19th, 2018, 2:07 pm

My belief on the "out of Africa" hypothesis has been for many years that it's based on racism. I reject the idea that we evolved from blacks. There's really no more evidence that we came out of Africa than Africans came out of us. This idea was first proposed at time when racism was endemic in society.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby alanjh595 » Nov 19th, 2018, 2:28 pm

I think he may have been on his deathbed and said, "Oh Gawd, I think this is the BIG ONE".

Like all good stories, it got embellished every time it was told.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby youjustcomplain » Nov 19th, 2018, 3:43 pm

Glacier wrote:My belief on the "out of Africa" hypothesis has been for many years that it's based on racism. I reject the idea that we evolved from blacks. There's really no more evidence that we came out of Africa than Africans came out of us. This idea was first proposed at time when racism was endemic in society.


Interesting idea. My understanding is that Homo sapiens first developed somewhere in Africa and migrated outward from there. As they met with Neanderthals and bred, we ended up with Neanderthals, Homo Sapiens and a mix. The mix and Homo Sapiens persist today. Neanderthals died out (as a species).

How does racism play into it? (I'm not denying that it does, I just don't know where it fits). Hell, I don't even know that my understanding is right. :)
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby Ka-El » Nov 19th, 2018, 3:58 pm

It is an interesting idea, and we can't completely discount the possibility that Homo Sapiens developed
on other areas of the globe around the same time without embarking on massive migrations.
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby averagejoe » Nov 19th, 2018, 5:11 pm

Omnitheo wrote:Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

If Joe is making the extraordinary claim that the accepted understanding of evolution is false, along with entire fields of biology, forensics, medicines, agriculture. He needs to provide extraordinary evidence demonstrating so.

If he can, a Nobel Prize is in his future.


You still haven't proved or produced any proof your theories don't belong in Conspiracy thread.... :laugh:
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby averagejoe » Nov 19th, 2018, 5:14 pm

We came from space! :birthday2:

Proven fact... :D

According to scientists.... :200:

Humans came from distant galaxies, along with everything else in the Milky Way

'We could consider ourselves space travelers or extragalactic immigrants,' says scientist behind study

Humans are formed from matter that flew billions of miles from another galaxy, according to a new study.

Much of the stuff around us and spread throughout our Milky Way is made up of "extragalactic matter", according to the research.

The study used computer models to find out how the matter around us came to be acquired by our galaxy. It found that supernova explosions throw out huge amounts of matter from galaxies, spreading it throughout the universe as it is carried on powerful galactic winds.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 61666.html
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Re: Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?

Postby averagejoe » Nov 19th, 2018, 5:20 pm

We were created by aliens!

Prove me wrong... :popcorn:

Compelling evidence by Dr. Silver proves we come from aliens! :smt045


Where Did Humans Originate?

Theories abound as to how humans came to be on this planet.

Evolutionists make a sound argument, stating that we evolved from primates over an extensive time period. Creationists believe we were created in our present form by a higher power.

While evolution and creationism are arguably the two most widespread theories of how human beings were created, there are several other theories to explore as well.

Are humans from another planet? Did extraterrestrials create us? Explore the following theories on the origin of humans to come to your own conclusion.
Humans are not from Earth

When compared to other species, human beings are extremely advanced and anomalous. From our communication abilities to our advanced intelligence, it’s safe to say we’re truly one of a kind.

There is much evidence to suggest humans are not suited for Earth’s environment. Dr. Ellis Silver explored this notion in-depth in his book Humans are not from Earth: a scientific evaluation of the evidence. Some of the most compelling evidence from Dr. Silver’s work includes:

Sunburn – If we were meant to live on Earth, then why are we so sensitive to the sun’s rays?
Back problems – Dr. Silver believes the reason back problems are so widespread is because we’re designed to live in a lower-gravity environment.
Disease – Our immune systems are surprisingly weak and seem ill-suited for the planet.
Childbirth – Humans experience extraordinary difficulty and pain when giving birth.

https://www.gaia.com/article/where-did-humans-originate
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