God business just can't seem to get it right!

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It is hilarious that pastors and priests claim to be the voice of god, seems like they are a bunch of con artists and perverts.
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I saw that story. Nothing but disgusting what so many of these priests have done, and probably many more that haven't been caught yet.
I have a number of Catholic friends here in Kamloops, but want to keep them as friends so never bring these stories up. And of course, they never talk about it but go about their lives like nothing bad ever happens in their churches.
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southy wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/308925/Kamloops-catholic-priest-sex-abuse-victim-awarded-844-140#308925

When will it ever end?


It really has little to do with god. Us men are fallible. Given the opportunity, a lot of men take full advantage. The only thing different about the church is that the priest is in a position of power somehow. But really, that's power given to them by the people who play along. They have no power at all, and as such, they can't abuse what they don't have. In my mind, it's the victim of the crime who gives them the power to hold it over them. It's kinda like an abusive relationship, only in the case of the church, the abused party can leave with no strings attached, at any time. They can maintain their relationship with their god and go about their lives without the need to feel servile towards some raping priest.
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youjustcomplain wrote:
southy wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/308925/Kamloops-catholic-priest-sex-abuse-victim-awarded-844-140#308925

When will it ever end?


It really has little to do with god. Us men are fallible. Given the opportunity, a lot of men take full advantage. The only thing different about the church is that the priest is in a position of power somehow. But really, that's power given to them by the people who play along. They have no power at all, and as such, they can't abuse what they don't have. In my mind, it's the victim of the crime who gives them the power to hold it over them. It's kinda like an abusive relationship, only in the case of the church, the abused party can leave with no strings attached, at any time. They can maintain their relationship with their god and go about their lives without the need to feel servile towards some raping priest.


No strings attached? Other than the emotional scares.
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Sex crimes permeate all levels of society, including the most trusted segments like churches and schools. Actually, if you're a pedophile, trusted positions of authority is the "best" place to be.

My kids were in gymnastics in Vernon and the coach was a total creep. Most parents could tell something wasn't right about him. I watched him the entire time because something didn't' sit right with me. A short time later, he was fired for undisclosed reasons, and started up his own gymnastics school in Lumby. After a couple of years of that he was charged for being in possession of child porn.
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youjustcomplain wrote:
southy wrote:https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/308925/Kamloops-catholic-priest-sex-abuse-victim-awarded-844-140#308925

When will it ever end?


It really has little to do with god. Us men are fallible. Given the opportunity, a lot of men take full advantage. The only thing different about the church is that the priest is in a position of power somehow. But really, that's power given to them by the people who play along. They have no power at all, and as such, they can't abuse what they don't have. In my mind, it's the victim of the crime who gives them the power to hold it over them. It's kinda like an abusive relationship, only in the case of the church, the abused party can leave with no strings attached, at any time. They can maintain their relationship with their god and go about their lives without the need to feel servile towards some raping priest.


Catholics have been recorded to being child molesters since the Middle Ages. If it takes hundreds of years to reform then there is a definite problem with the whole faith. Christians preach against sexual morality but they constantly do it anyway, that makes the clergy and their supporters hypocrites. Protestant preachers in the states are very well known for hiring male prostitutes while they rage against it, more hypocrisy. Maybe the problem is the Bible, after all God does justify and condone the rape of unbelievers in the OT.
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southy wrote:No strings attached? Other than the emotional scares.


Oh, yes, I didn't mean to imply that the victim wasn't still a victim and would carry that forever. I meant that unlike a spousal abuse relationship, the victim isn't leaving their house, kids, financial stability and such. In the case of a priest, couldn't the victim have just left? Or if the victim was restrained or something, then once is enough. don't come back for 100 more rapes. Just leave the church and call the police.
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youjustcomplain wrote:
southy wrote:No strings attached? Other than the emotional scares.


Oh, yes, I didn't mean to imply that the victim wasn't still a victim and would carry that forever. I meant that unlike a spousal abuse relationship, the victim isn't leaving their house, kids, financial stability and such. In the case of a priest, couldn't the victim have just left? Or if the victim was restrained or something, then once is enough. don't come back for 100 more rapes. Just leave the church and call the police.


I wish it were that simple. Sometimes leaving an abusive marriage is easier than leaving the control of the church.
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southy wrote:I wish it were that simple. Sometimes leaving an abusive marriage is easier than leaving the control of the church.


Being someone who never goes to church, I will just have to take your word for it. I've never been in that position, so I can't say.

But men taking advantage of woman and even children seems to exist in every society, with or without church. The only thing more awful about the church is that they cover it up for their priests whereas, everyone else in society calls these people out.

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