The day I realized there is no god.

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capleton wrote: May 19th, 2022, 6:35 pm Yet the Bible records him speaking through the sky to the prophets. None of this happens in reality I just think its odd that Hindu's have experiences of Shiva and Vishnu etc, Muslims have experiences from allah and pagans have experiences of Zeus, Odin etc, Christians have experiences from the Holy Spirit. I think this has to do neurobiology and culture rather then the truth of the supernatural.
Is it possible though, that the shared experiences from all of these different cultures could have been the same "god"? One person calls it Odin, the next calls it Allah. That doesn't mean that the experiences weren't real and didn't come from a god, it could just be that different cultures call the same thing by different names. I don't believe that to be the case. But simply because they call it by different names isn't much in the way of evidence that it's not true.
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youjustcomplain wrote: May 20th, 2022, 10:11 am
capleton wrote: May 19th, 2022, 6:35 pm Yet the Bible records him speaking through the sky to the prophets. None of this happens in reality I just think its odd that Hindu's have experiences of Shiva and Vishnu etc, Muslims have experiences from allah and pagans have experiences of Zeus, Odin etc, Christians have experiences from the Holy Spirit. I think this has to do neurobiology and culture rather then the truth of the supernatural.
Is it possible though, that the shared experiences from all of these different cultures could have been the same "god"? One person calls it Odin, the next calls it Allah. That doesn't mean that the experiences weren't real and didn't come from a god, it could just be that different cultures call the same thing by different names. I don't believe that to be the case. But simply because they call it by different names isn't much in the way of evidence that it's not true.
Problem is, they all have different powers and abilities, so not likely the same.
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capleton wrote: May 19th, 2022, 6:35 pm I think this has to do neurobiology and culture rather then the truth of the supernatural.
"Neurobiology
Neurobiology is the study of cells of the nervous system and the organization of these cells into functional circuits that process information and mediate behavior."

So just another word for Effing Nuts? :D
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youjustcomplain wrote: May 20th, 2022, 10:11 am
capleton wrote: May 19th, 2022, 6:35 pm Yet the Bible records him speaking through the sky to the prophets. None of this happens in reality I just think its odd that Hindu's have experiences of Shiva and Vishnu etc, Muslims have experiences from allah and pagans have experiences of Zeus, Odin etc, Christians have experiences from the Holy Spirit. I think this has to do neurobiology and culture rather then the truth of the supernatural.
Is it possible though, that the shared experiences from all of these different cultures could have been the same "god"? One person calls it Odin, the next calls it Allah. That doesn't mean that the experiences weren't real and didn't come from a god, it could just be that different cultures call the same thing by different names. I don't believe that to be the case. But simply because they call it by different names isn't much in the way of evidence that it's not true.
Odin isn't the same god as yahweh/Jesus. hell Yahweh isn't even the same god as jesus
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Bsuds wrote: May 20th, 2022, 3:26 pm
capleton wrote: May 19th, 2022, 6:35 pm I think this has to do neurobiology and culture rather then the truth of the supernatural.
"Neurobiology
Neurobiology is the study of cells of the nervous system and the organization of these cells into functional circuits that process information and mediate behavior."

So just another word for Effing Nuts? :D
Nope, where did you you get your definition? Neurobiology is the study of how the nervous system and brain works.
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capleton wrote: May 20th, 2022, 4:01 pm
Nope, where did you you get your definition? Neurobiology is the study of how the nervous system and brain works.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/neurobiology.htm
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capleton wrote: May 20th, 2022, 3:59 pm Odin isn't the same god as yahweh/Jesus. hell Yahweh isn't even the same god as jesus
Is that your belief? Given the level of evidence that you expect from people who make claims in this forum with relation to god, I'm surprised you, a non believer, would go on to define the god you don't believe in.

How do you know what gods are what when you don't believe in any of them to exist?

My point isn't that gods exist by different names. Only that it's possible that different cultures all know the same male god by different names. Most cultures that believe in this god of theirs, believe him to be all powerful, so though stories of Odin may talk about different powers from jesus's dad, it wouldn't be a leap to suggest that it's the same god.

We believe in the same number of gods Capleton.
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hahaha [icon_lol2.gif]

this was the day I realize there is a God. :up:

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he made a war that killed millions of people so rich people could get richer - God saw what he did, but waited until now to expose the fool. Christians believe everyone will answer to God for all the bad things they did in their life, and this loser, liar, looks pathetic.

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In the old days people like Tolstoy wrote stories that talked about God. Now, corporations like Disney fill people with a lot of useless stupid :cuss: - that makes them believe in no God.
If you have to be persuaded reminded bullied pressured bribed incentivized, lied to, guilt tripped, coerced, socially shamed, censored, threatened, paid, punished and criminalized, to gain your compliance- the thing is no good
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Thinktank wrote: May 24th, 2022, 5:19 am In the old days people like Tolstoy wrote stories that talked about God.
People still do that as it is all part of the revolving money machine that is the god lie. If nobody made money off of religion there would be alot less of it.
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If you have to be persuaded reminded bullied pressured bribed incentivized, lied to, guilt tripped, coerced, socially shamed, censored, threatened, paid, punished and criminalized, to gain your compliance- the thing is no good
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How does one ground objective morality in a atheist worldview?
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WESTman wrote: Sep 15th, 2022, 3:53 pm How does one ground objective morality in a atheist worldview?
Where did the Good Samaritan's morality come from if he wasn't religious?
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Doing the right thing does not require a god, just good intentions.
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The Straken wrote: Sep 16th, 2022, 8:17 am Doing the right thing does not require a god, just good intentions.
I did not say people who do not believe in god could not be moral people. I am asking a philosophical question, in a Atheist worldview where everything is merely matter in flux, macro evolution and survival of the fittest where there will be no judgment after death, where does the grounding from morals come from?
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Morality, our mental ability to tell right from wrong in our behaviors and the behaviors of others, is a product of evolution. Morality has been passed on through the course of evolution because it helps us to live in large social groups by enhancing our ability to get along and interact with others.
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