Faith On Decline

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Kodidad wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 5:31 pm Interesting read. Thanks for that. Then it occurred to me..what is CARM?
https://carm.org/atheism/the-myth-that- ... se-of-war/
It especially became apparent when the article started to quote bible paragraphs. Sorry, that stopped me in my tracks, as we all know the bible is a compilation of fictitious short stories written by various authors, mostly based around a central figure. Stories were arbitrarily picked by the Council of Hippo, held in north Africa in AD 393.
So whether these stats are correct, or not, they are biased.
You think you know what the Bible contains? Your brief explanation isn’t even close. I’m 100% sure you’ve never taken any time to actually read it or study it. And googling criticism about it doesn’t count. I’m not trying to insult you but maybe break through a bit to you that what you think you know is actually not close to accurate. You really are very far off in your explanation. As for the council of Hippo the canon was already well established well before than. The Catholic Church would argue that. Of course they are the biggest false religion on the planet. If you actually want to know how the Bible came to us in its current state and if there’s real proof it is inspired of God, I’ll be happy to meet you in person to discuss this.
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And thus, faith is on the decline.
Hmmm wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:53 pm If you actually want to know how the Bible came to us in its current state and if there’s real proof it is inspired of God, I’ll be happy to meet you in person to discuss this.
Which god are you talking about? Odin? Krishna? Zeus? Ra? Not sure which if any inspired the bible. Who does god worship? Does he/she pray to some unknown deity? Where is his/her moral compass to rain plague and famine on the followers? Is it god's plan to see us all die? Sorry to offend, but I'm not buying what they're selling.
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Glacier wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 6:50 pm
Kodidad wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 5:31 pm So whether these stats are correct, or not, they are biased.
This makes no sense. Stats are either right or wrong. The bias of the author doesn't matter when assessing the data.
Yes, but as seen over the last couple years, stats can be cherry picked or skewed to promote a point of view. Not saying your stats are wrong. Indeed, based solely on "religious" wars, this may well be accurate. I did include "more people have died in the name of religion". This may have been as a result of a war or an outright genocide.
https://www.swnewsmedia.com/eden_prairi ... a0700.html
"In the last thousand years about 40 million people have died in the name of religion."
This article does not include the numbers killed in mosque bombings, chinese uighurs, Tibetan nationals, residential schools here and other countries, Jim Jones type cults, etc.etc.
I guess you don't have to be a religious person to exterminate peoples of alternate faiths.

Maybe it's not that faith is on the decline but rather the display of worship.
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^wow, did you go full blown communist on me? You side with China in Tibet!? With China against the Uighurs!?
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Glacier wrote: Dec 9th, 2022, 12:16 am ^wow, did you go full blown communist on me? You side with China in Tibet!? With China against the Uighurs!?
Uh no.
12:16 am is probably not the time to reply. Especially after a couple glasses of wine. I know this from past experience. :smt045
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Kodidad wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 9:32 pm And thus, faith is on the decline.
Hmmm wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:53 pm If you actually want to know how the Bible came to us in its current state and if there’s real proof it is inspired of God, I’ll be happy to meet you in person to discuss this.
Which god are you talking about? Odin? Krishna? Zeus? Ra? Not sure which if any inspired the bible. Who does god worship? Does he/she pray to some unknown deity? Where is his/her moral compass to rain plague and famine on the followers? Is it god's plan to see us all die? Sorry to offend, but I'm not buying what they're selling.
I really like this response. There’s a lot of hubris involved when a person mentions a god and we’re all supposed to assume it’s the Christian variety. I’ve always had much more in common with Thor and Zeus.
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tarzanbruce wrote: Dec 9th, 2022, 11:36 pm I really like this response. There’s a lot of hubris involved when a person mentions a god and we’re all supposed to assume it’s the Christian variety. I’ve always had much more in common with Thor and Zeus.
Thor and Zeus fall under the other category, which makes up less than 1% of the world's population. All religions on Earth including nones are in decline, with the exception of Christianity and Judaism which are stagnant, and Islam which is growing.
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Hmmm wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 8:53 pm
Kodidad wrote: Dec 8th, 2022, 5:31 pm Interesting read. Thanks for that. Then it occurred to me..what is CARM?
https://carm.org/atheism/the-myth-that- ... se-of-war/
It especially became apparent when the article started to quote bible paragraphs. Sorry, that stopped me in my tracks, as we all know the bible is a compilation of fictitious short stories written by various authors, mostly based around a central figure. Stories were arbitrarily picked by the Council of Hippo, held in north Africa in AD 393.
So whether these stats are correct, or not, they are biased.
You think you know what the Bible contains? Your brief explanation isn’t even close. I’m 100% sure you’ve never taken any time to actually read it or study it. And googling criticism about it doesn’t count. I’m not trying to insult you but maybe break through a bit to you that what you think you know is actually not close to accurate. You really are very far off in your explanation. As for the council of Hippo the canon was already well established well before than. The Catholic Church would argue that. Of course they are the biggest false religion on the planet. If you actually want to know how the Bible came to us in its current state and if there’s real proof it is inspired of God, I’ll be happy to meet you in person to discuss this.
How isn't the Bible fictious, you have talking donkeys and snakes, magic zombies rising from the dead and flying into the sky, zombies roaming around Jerusalem, floods and stories like the Exodus that didn't happen and a bunch of bad morality like how to burn witches and keep slaves.
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capleton wrote: May 11th, 2023, 3:35 pm ...a bunch of bad morality like how to burn witches and keep slaves.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JKZG1PkEudM

Alberta students decided to do a bible burning - not the smartest thing to do.
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WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????

BBC says tens of thousands of Ukrainians have died and Zelensky needs hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to replace them. Yes. BBC is just that dumb.
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Thinktank wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JKZG1PkEudM

Alberta students decided to do a bible burning - not the smartest thing to do.
The smartest thing to do might be to round up many more of that book and burn them at homeless camps in Winter. At least that way the book did something positive for someone.
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youjustcomplain wrote: May 23rd, 2023, 7:38 am The smartest thing to do might be to round up many more of that book and burn them at homeless camps in Winter.
Rather than do something about the homeless problem?
Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
^ that kind of explains the world right now, doesn't it?

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WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????

BBC says tens of thousands of Ukrainians have died and Zelensky needs hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to replace them. Yes. BBC is just that dumb.
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Thinktank wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:29 pm
capleton wrote: May 11th, 2023, 3:35 pm ...a bunch of bad morality like how to burn witches and keep slaves.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JKZG1PkEudM

Alberta students decided to do a bible burning - not the smartest thing to do.
So what? Christians have a long history of burning books. I guess it is a waste of rolling papers though
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Thinktank wrote: May 24th, 2023, 5:35 am Rather than do something about the homeless problem?
If the Bible had the solution to our homeless problem then the Bible would have a total of one useful thing in it.
The Bible doesn't solve the societal problem of homelessness, but if it did, I'd expect it to go into detail about how you can beat homeless people and how hard.

I'd love to have a solution to the homelessness issue. A solution that helps every single one of them have a meaningful and happy life where they can feel productive and integrated in society. We don't have a solution, and the Bible offers nothing but warmth when burned.

Thinktank wrote: May 24th, 2023, 5:35 am Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

^ that kind of explains the world right now, doesn't it?
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