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Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby zzontar » Mar 20th, 2017, 8:04 pm

I can't believe how racist this is, and it's harder to believe one could say this from the other thread on the subject
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Yes, it is. The other thread just seems to be a lot of anti-native comments though. I don't see this from the point of view of race.


... when the article clearly states
“That First Nations' background means that he is not held to the same level of accountability.


Wow, completely crystal clear racism that's muddy to some because it's not whites being racist.
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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby voice of reason » Mar 20th, 2017, 8:05 pm

sooo... first nations people are not capable of coping with complex situations now? they dont have to answer to the same set of laws as the rest of society ? this guy chopped someones face with a machete and stabbed a woman.he should be up the river without a paddle no matter what race or upbringing.there is zero reason to be carrying a machete in ben lee park ever. there is zero excuse for using it as a weapon and zero excuse for stabbing someone ever.this is a load of bullchit.first nations people should be offended that they are being made to sound like they are not mentally able to cope with situations the same way the rest of the world can. everyone should be equal in the eyes of the law white red black yellow rich or poor.there is only one set of laws and it should appy to everyone equallty

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby mexicalidreamer » Mar 20th, 2017, 8:47 pm

I am so sick of the two tiered system we live in.

Gladue. Look it up. It is what let this piece of (what's the worst I could insert here) get off with time served.

There is so much more to say but so little point to even bothering.
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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby fvkasm2x » Mar 20th, 2017, 8:51 pm

MAPearce wrote:
The problem is that the judge didn't give just "HIM" a great excuse for his barbaric deviance..But he set a precedence for others like " HIM" to follow...

MORE than sad , REALLY ..



Happens all the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladue_report


Aboriginals are almost always given lighter sentences for their crimes, because they haven't been given the tools to succeed in life. :up:

You can't even complain about it, or you're a racist and "they were here first."

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 20th, 2017, 8:55 pm

The people blaming this piece of work for his being native are wrong . Let us remember . The ramp got him. Caught him charged him. The judge let him go . Nothing to do with his being native . Judge is to blame . I was born white in Asia . No choice of my own

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby dogspoiler » Mar 20th, 2017, 8:56 pm

It will soon be illegal to defend yourself if you are attacked by one of "them".

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby Triple 6 » Mar 20th, 2017, 9:01 pm

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby WalterWhite » Mar 20th, 2017, 9:11 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:The people blaming this piece of work for his being native are wrong . Let us remember . The ramp got him. Caught him charged him. The judge let him go . Nothing to do with his being native . Judge is to blame . I was born white in Asia . No choice of my own


We're on a roll - we agree on two things now.

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby dogspoiler » Mar 20th, 2017, 9:12 pm

Why do you think our legal system can get away with being so blatantly racist ?

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby zzontar » Mar 20th, 2017, 10:34 pm

Jflem1983 wrote:The people blaming this piece of work for his being native are wrong . Let us remember . The ramp got him. Caught him charged him. The judge let him go . Nothing to do with his being native . Judge is to blame . I was born white in Asia . No choice of my own


I wonder who it was that insisted natives get to deal with punishments in their own ways? Somehow I doubt it was the white man.
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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 20th, 2017, 10:47 pm

Well zontar I never chose to be white . I never chose to be born in Asia. I did choose to make every single mistake I ever made . Some maybe not my fault a lot were . Justice ought to be blind . If I'm blue pink or white . Should be the same . If the so called judge thinks differently . It is him or her who needs to be taken to task. This winner who caused all this trouble ought to be locked up for years . On this we all agree .

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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby zzontar » Mar 20th, 2017, 11:10 pm

I agree that judges have to be more accountable. :up:
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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby Atomoa » Mar 21st, 2017, 2:05 am

fvkasm2x wrote:You can't even complain about it, or you're a racist and "they were here first."


The thing is even with this built into our legal system, natives make up a disproportionately large portion of of prisoners. So much so it's been a point of international disgrace for sometime.

It's not that natives are criminals, it's just we've really screwed them up. Reserves and the social fabric is gone. Our little fix-it systems surely have not helped them. All this based on a few generations of rampant sexual and physical abuse hardwired into their society.

If we didnt go easy on them our prisons would be at least 50% native. No joke.

I think the outcome here is sad. This will not be the last we see of him and I feel for the guy with the scar. I would think though that with a scar like that, the criminal might find himself the victim of a unfortunate series of events at one point in time or another.
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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby Barney Google » Mar 21st, 2017, 4:40 am

Atomoa wrote:
The thing is even with this built into our legal system, natives make up a disproportionately large portion of of prisoners. So much so it's been a point of international disgrace for sometime.

It's not that natives are criminals, it's just we've really screwed them up. Reserves and the social fabric is gone. Our little fix-it systems surely have not helped them. All this based on a few generations of rampant sexual and physical abuse hardwired into their society.

If we didnt go easy on them our prisons would be at least 50% native. No joke.

I think the outcome here is sad. This will not be the last we see of him and I feel for the guy with the scar. I would think though that with a scar like that, the criminal might find himself the victim of a unfortunate series of events at one point in time or another.


I agree with what you are expressing Atomoa...but how's that going to help with this fella's next victim(s)?

Your sentence, "If we didn't go easy on them our prisons would be at least 50% native" really resonated with me.

Canadians need to face, and deal with this, but in the mean time I don't know if it's wise to continue to take the 'go easy'

approach. The system is failing on all levels and it doesn't appear to be that our government is in any hurry to address

things here at home. It appears Canada is more concerned about aiding other countries while we have pretty major

issues in our own that go underfunding, ignored and sidelined.
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Re: Time Served After 3 Separate Assaults

Postby Jflem1983 » Mar 21st, 2017, 6:36 am

Natives make up 3 percent of Canada's population . Over half of the prison population . Prison system is an extension of the reserve system . That being said . This particular guy ought to be at the end of a rope
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