Fatal Stabbing

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I think the proverbial revolving door is a huge part of the problem. Suspect stabs someone, is arrested, and is released the next day. It's friggin' ridiculous. Violent crimes should be 2 to 5 years minimum without exception or excuse. Get these *bleep* off the street. If they do it again when they come out, put them back for even longer.
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techrtr wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 3:50 pm I think the proverbial revolving door is a huge part of the problem. Suspect stabs someone, is arrested, and is released the next day. It's friggin' ridiculous. Violent crimes should be 2 to 5 years minimum without exception or excuse. Get these *bleep* off the street. If they do it again when they come out, put them back for even longer.
They are not guilty of that crime until they they are tried in court and have been convicted beyond any shadow of doubt by a judge or a jury of his peers.

He is innocent until that has happened.

How would you like to be taken from your home, in the middle of the night, while you were sleeping, arrested and held in jail, just because someone thought that they saw you do something very heinous in nature?

If after you are arrested and in jail, should the police stop looking for the real perpetrator of that crime?
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the truth wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 1:22 pm I find it interesting so many on here not so long ago were all about -defund the police- now not so much
how about that.
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https://www.castanet.net/news/Letters/3 ... y-downtown
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Kelowna city council candidate Susan Ames:

Ames: "We should have “beat cops” who have a regular beat, and this will discourage street and property crime. Officers would work individually and build up a relationship with people in the community/businesses in their beat. They keep their eyes on the street with the help of the community and the “criminals” know they are there. The officers are trained to handle themselves and backup would only be a block or two away. It may be costly to have “beat cops” but in the long run, there would be less street and property crime and what goes with it, such as the expensive court system and trauma to the victims. As well, Kelowna is the only major community in the Central Okanagan without a citizens’ patrol. These are a “second set of eyes”, and the citizen patrol can alert the RCMP if they see something of concern. We used to have a citizens’ patrol in Kelowna, and we need to bring this back. Other simple options, such as strategic lighting can deter crime."
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out to kill again, thank you useless woke judge https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#392405
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Programs that might make a difference?

Bring back the Death penalty. That is one massive "program" that will make a difference for sure in not having repeat killers out on bail or just out again.
As WW3 develops, no one is going to be dissing the "preppers." What have you done?
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Queen K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 6:35 pm Programs that might make a difference?

Bring back the Death penalty. That is one massive "program" that will make a difference for sure in not having repeat killers out on bail or just out again.
Considering death penalties havent been proven to be an absolute deterrent to homicides, do you feel it just that a person convicted of manslaughter while affected with drug induced psychosis be put to death?
How about Vince Lee, who killed Tim Mclean on that bus? He wasnt able to form mens rea due to mental illness. Should he have been executed?
How about Robert Latimer?
While on the subject, how about the ones exonerated, such as David Milgaard, Steven Truscott, Thomas Sophonow, etc? Would it have been alright to execute them?
How effective has death penalties been in states and countries that use execution as a deterrent?
Is it alright to execute some clean living accountant who had one too many at the office xmas party and was found guilty vehicular homicide?
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alanjh595 wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 4:09 pm
techrtr wrote: Oct 10th, 2022, 3:50 pm I think the proverbial revolving door is a huge part of the problem. Suspect stabs someone, is arrested, and is released the next day. It's friggin' ridiculous. Violent crimes should be 2 to 5 years minimum without exception or excuse. Get these *bleep* off the street. If they do it again when they come out, put them back for even longer.
They are not guilty of that crime until they they are tried in court and have been convicted beyond any shadow of doubt by a judge or a jury of his peers.

He is innocent until that has happened.

How would you like to be taken from your home, in the middle of the night, while you were sleeping, arrested and held in jail, just because someone thought that they saw you do something very heinous in nature?

If after you are arrested and in jail, should the police stop looking for the real perpetrator of that crime?
If it walks like a duck , talks like one and looks like a duck ...

It might not be a duck .. It could be a camel ....

Let's leave it to the judge ???
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Lynn K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 7:14 pm
Queen K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 6:35 pm Programs that might make a difference?

Bring back the Death penalty. That is one massive "program" that will make a difference for sure in not having repeat killers out on bail or just out again.
Considering death penalties havent been proven to be an absolute deterrent to homicides, do you feel it just that a person convicted of manslaughter while affected with drug induced psychosis be put to death?
How about Vince Lee, who killed Tim Mclean on that bus? He wasnt able to form mens rea due to mental illness. Should he have been executed?
How about Robert Latimer?
While on the subject, how about the ones exonerated, such as David Milgaard, Steven Truscott, Thomas Sophonow, etc? Would it have been alright to execute them?
How effective has death penalties been in states and countries that use execution as a deterrent?
Is it alright to execute some clean living accountant who had one too many at the office xmas party and was found guilty vehicular homicide?
an eye for an eye,
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Why dont the police bring him in feet first???
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the truth wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 8:07 pm an eye for an eye,
The context of what I wrote blew right past you, didn't it?
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Lynn K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 10:54 pm
the truth wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 8:07 pm an eye for an eye,
The context of what I wrote blew right past you, didn't it?
not at all.
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Lynn K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 7:14 pm
Queen K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 6:35 pm Programs that might make a difference?

Bring back the Death penalty. That is one massive "program" that will make a difference for sure in not having repeat killers out on bail or just out again.
Considering death penalties havent been proven to be an absolute deterrent to homicides, do you feel it just that a person convicted of manslaughter while affected with drug induced psychosis be put to death?
How about Vince Lee, who killed Tim Mclean on that bus? He wasnt able to form mens rea due to mental illness. Should he have been executed?
How about Robert Latimer?
While on the subject, how about the ones exonerated, such as David Milgaard, Steven Truscott, Thomas Sophonow, etc? Would it have been alright to execute them?
How effective has death penalties been in states and countries that use execution as a deterrent?
Is it alright to execute some clean living accountant who had one too many at the office xmas party and was found guilty vehicular homicide?
I do belive that the death penalty was only ever used for those convicted of murder 1st degree. With premeditation. Not for manslaughter or vehicular etc.
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If there has been a fatal stabbing story to chill you this is one of them. Four friends found stabbed to death in a house, no leads, no suspects, people found alive in the house besides the four dead, but are not suspects. The college town of Moscow, Idaho in terror.

https://www.castanet.net/news/World/396 ... e-students

Authorities continue to believe the attack was targeted but walked back a previous statement that there was no threat to the public.

“Investigators are working to follow up on all the leads and identify a person of interest,” Moscow Police Chief James Fry said at a news conference. “We do not have a suspect at this time, and that individual is still out there. We cannot say that there is no threat to the community."

“We need to be aware of our surroundings,” Fry said.

All four victims were stabbed with a knife, the chief reported. There was no sign of forced entry, and a door was found open by the first police officers to arrive. Two other people were found alive and unhurt in the large home.

“I’m not going to go into what they shared,” Fry said.

“We’re focusing on everyone," he added. "We’re still following up with everyone that could have been in that area.”
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69cutlass wrote: Oct 25th, 2022, 6:57 am
Lynn K wrote: Oct 24th, 2022, 7:14 pm
Considering death penalties havent been proven to be an absolute deterrent to homicides, do you feel it just that a person convicted of manslaughter while affected with drug induced psychosis be put to death?
How about Vince Lee, who killed Tim Mclean on that bus? He wasnt able to form mens rea due to mental illness. Should he have been executed?
How about Robert Latimer?
While on the subject, how about the ones exonerated, such as David Milgaard, Steven Truscott, Thomas Sophonow, etc? Would it have been alright to execute them?
How effective has death penalties been in states and countries that use execution as a deterrent?
Is it alright to execute some clean living accountant who had one too many at the office xmas party and was found guilty vehicular homicide?
I do belive that the death penalty was only ever used for those convicted of murder 1st degree. With premeditation. Not for manslaughter or vehicular etc.
There is a term used in labour law call non culpability.. should apply in criminal law as well basically the premise is that it is recognized you did it, but it's not your fault. I believe that if you did it, regardless, you did it, and MUST pay a price for that.Even humane death is too good for those that took lives . Old world justice should be a recreation of the crime...you do the crime... you do the time... and life should be that...life... and two lives means you are Never coming out
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