Facing eviction on WFN

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Man, there is a lot of misinformation on this thread. I live on leased land, and love it by the way. All banks will offer mortgages on mobiles and leased land, if it has value then interest can be made.

When you buy a home on wfn land you are required to receive a copy of their tenancy agreement and bylaws. It's included with the paperwork required to file for tenancy.

In regards to the people with the house on lakefront. I definitely don't know all the details so I can't really make judgment but it sounds like we haven't received all the information.
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I have yet to see one single real estate agent advise buyers of the WFN bylaws or provide copies to them - in fact, most agents are about as blind to the laws as their clients.


How can they ? First the Tomats wanted just the garage. The tenants said no so they came back and said "OK we'll take it all"?

Is it writen that that can happen ?
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zerograv wrote:Man, there is a lot of misinformation on this thread. I live on leased land, and love it by the way. All banks will offer mortgages on mobiles and leased land, if it has value then interest can be made.

When you buy a home on wfn land you are required to receive a copy of their tenancy agreement and bylaws. It's included with the paperwork required to file for tenancy.

In regards to the people with the house on lakefront. I definitely don't know all the details so I can't really make judgment but it sounds like we haven't received all the information.


Wrong.

Most banks will not offer mortgages on leased land...but other financial institutions will - depending on how long is left on the lease.

When you buy a mobile home on WFN you are required only to receive the tenancy agreement and rules/bylaws of the particular place you will be living from the landlord or their agent. Tenants are not given copies of the 60 page WFN Residential Tenancy Laws.
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I assume the mortgage would be a chattel mortgage.
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Farmmaa wrote:
Wrong.

Most banks will not offer mortgages on leased land...but other financial institutions will - depending on how long is left on the lease.

When you buy a mobile home on WFN you are required only to receive the tenancy agreement and rules/bylaws of the particular place you will be living from the landlord or their agent. Tenants are not given copies of the 60 page WFN Residential Tenancy Laws.


You can think I'm wrong all you want but that is simply not the case. Would you like see a copy of my mortgage? I had no problem shopping for my mortgage at every large bank in Kelowna. And yes you are required to receive a copy of the wfn tenancy act.
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MAPearce wrote:
How can they ? First the Tomats wanted just the garage. The tenants said no so they came back and said "OK we'll take it all"?

Is it writen that that can happen ?


It is written

http://www.wfn.ca/docs/100322_respremla ... sion_2.pdf

Writ of Possession - section 39.4
Notice of End of Tenancy Agreement for Landlord Use of Property - Section 46
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I wonder if the WFN could simply take back the land that hwy 97 sits on after the bridge...
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zerograv wrote:
You can think I'm wrong all you want but that is simply not the case. Would you like see a copy of my mortgage? I had no problem shopping for my mortgage at every large bank in Kelowna. And yes you are required to receive a copy of the wfn tenancy act.


I don't care where you got your mortgage particularly...and I did not say that NO banks will mortgage mobile homes on leased land...but most will not - depending on the length remaining on the lease ad the finances of the buyers.

Do you really think that every renter in Bc is given a copy of the Landlord Tenancy Act ???
No...because it is not required.
Neither is it required for tenants to be supplied with a copy of the WFN Tenancy laws. If some individuals hand out the 60 page act, good for them....they are not required to do so.
Tenants are free to download it from the WFn web site, or get a copy from their offices...but the landlord does not HAVE to supply it.

The large majority of tenants on WFN land are not even aware that the laws exist.
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Man, there is a lot of misinformation on this thread. I live on leased land, and love it by the way. All banks will offer mortgages on mobiles and leased land, if it has value then interest can be made.

When you buy a home on wfn land you are required to receive a copy of their tenancy agreement and bylaws. It's included with the paperwork required to file for tenancy.

In regards to the people with the house on lakefront. I definitely don't know all the details so I can't really make judgment but it sounds like we haven't received all the information.
Wrong.[\quote]

Most banks will not offer mortgages on leased land...but other financial institutions will - depending on how long is left on the lease.

When you buy a mobile home on WFN you are required only to receive the tenancy agreement and rules/bylaws of the particular place you will be living from the landlord or their agent. Tenants are not given copies of the 60 page WFN Residential Tenancy Laws.


The majority of banks will in fact mortgage leased land and land on First Nations Land provided there is a lease, and a considerable amount of time remaining on the lease.

This situation is NOT leased land, it is a month to month rental arrangement. This would/could happen anywher, not just on First Nations Land. Rent out your back yard for someone to put a mobile home on, do it month to month, when you want them gone, give them notice and say, well sorry but it's my land.
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Farmmaa wrote:
I don't care where you got your mortgage particularly...and I did not say that NO banks will mortgage mobile homes on leased land...but most will not - depending on the length remaining on the lease ad the finances of the buyers.

Do you really think that every renter in Bc is given a copy of the Landlord Tenancy Act ???
No...because it is not required.
Neither is it required for tenants to be supplied with a copy of the WFN Tenancy laws. If some individuals hand out the 60 page act, good for them....they are not required to do so.
Tenants are free to download it from the WFn web site, or get a copy from their offices...but the landlord does not HAVE to supply it.

The large majority of tenants on WFN land are not even aware that the laws exist.


No you said "most," which is simply not the case either. And yes you are required to have a copy of the tenancy act because it needs to be SIGNED and submitted that you have read it. Weather this happens in the "rest" of BC has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Stop spewing BS.
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zerograv wrote:
No you said "most," which is simply not the case either. And yes you are required to have a copy of the tenancy act because it needs to be SIGNED and submitted that you have read it. Stop spewing BS.


Wow. OK.

You had to read, sign and submit a 60 page document to the WFN when you purchased your mobile home ? Really ?
I suggest you check your agreement again.

You are not required to sign or submit anything to the WFN.

You would have been required to read, sign and agree to a copy of the park's Lease Agreement...which is a completely separate and totally unrelated piece of paper and has nothing to do with the WFN.
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The big question is............why are they evicted?????????? that is the only lot in all 4 parks that this is happening to. The Residential tenancy laws has rules as to why people can be evicted and I cannot see one on there saying "they want the garage"
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This situation is NOT leased land, it is a month to month rental arrangement. This would/could happen anywher, not just on First Nations Land. Rent out your back yard for someone to put a mobile home on, do it month to month, when you want them gone, give them notice and say, well sorry but it's my land.[/quote]


Actually.......just for verification, it is leased land and the landowner (Tomat) has to abide by the residential premises laws of WFN.
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chapjuan wrote:The big question is............why are they evicted?????????? that is the only lot in all 4 parks that this is happening to. The Residential tenancy laws has rules as to why people can be evicted and I cannot see one on there saying "they want the garage"


I just posted it above, with the sections to read.
The landlord can indeed evict a tenant if they intend to use that parcel of land for another purpose...whether it is for a maintenance building, or for park development.
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zerograv wrote:No you said "most," which is simply not the case either. And yes you are required to have a copy of the tenancy act because it needs to be SIGNED and submitted that you have read it. Weather this happens in the "rest" of BC has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Stop spewing BS.

The landlord does not give you a copy of the Tenancy Act ... the only document you sign is the Park Rules and Regulations of the landlord which is given to you when you put in an offer to buy and receive the approval application form from the property management.
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