Dangerous, disgusting mess

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Jflem1983 wrote:I am also in favour of work camps . We need it . Hell even if it was just to learn some skills . I know I could have used it


Wow... What a fantastic idea.

I mean, historically this approach has never posed any problem.

Now if only we could think of a good catchphrase to put over the entrance gates...

Literally shaking my head at this one. :200:
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foodsmith wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:I am also in favour of work camps . We need it . Hell even if it was just to learn some skills . I know I could have used it


Wow... What a fantastic idea.

I mean, historically this approach has never posed any problem.

Now if only we could think of a good catchphrase to put over the entrance gates...

Literally shaking my head at this one. :200:



LOL glad I got your attention.
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Leifer wrote:Take off the "kid gloves"

- Pull the mental health cases into a facility.
- *Force* the junkies into rehab and then have them work off the costs associated with their rehabilitation.
- Give the junkies three tries at rehab....third fail wins you a bullet to the back of the head.

Yeah my taxes will have to go up to pay for it all....but these little lost sheep aren't going to sort themselves out now are they?


Yes that's the spirit. Let's put a bullet in the back of their heads. First sift out the "mental cases" from the "junkies" and take it from there. Third fail and you're dead. I am just appalled that people like you live in my community. *removed*
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Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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Anyhoo.
You are right....why waste a perfectly good bullet?
What do you suggest pepecat? Bag of rocks around the neck and then over the rail they go?
The bullet seems more humane to me....but I am open to suggestions?
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Have you ever met one of these people on the street/at a shelter who are educated, well-rounded, and confident?

No.

I didn't think so.

I believe every one of these people has a problem firmly rooted in some sort of trauma or tragedy paired with a lack of support and access to programs that help.

I speak for having had to advocate for some one near/dear to receive much-needed services; they cannot do it alone. No, they simply can't.
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Most people I have known that end up homeless
Including myself. Fairly well educated. Good family support. That stuff all gets tossed when addiction takes over. We need to remember that It takes many many bad choices to wind up homeless. Let's look at Kelowna . Very expensive with no good jobs. Terrible city to live in if u r broke .
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

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I believe what Dr Gabor Mate discusses regarding trauma being the foundation laid for the onset of addiction.
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Jflem1983 wrote:Most people I have known that end up homeless
Including myself. Fairly well educated. Good family support. That stuff all gets tossed when addiction takes over. We need to remember that It takes many many bad choices to wind up homeless. Let's look at Kelowna . Very expensive with no good jobs. Terrible city to live in if u r broke .

I don't understand then why you agree, it seems, with "put a bullet in their head" hyperbolic mentality.
Would so rather be over educated that a knuckle dragging Neanderthal bereft of critical thought and imagination. Although in the case of Neanderthals, that's quite the insult.
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kgcayenne wrote:I believe what Dr Gabor Mate discusses regarding trauma being the foundation laid for the onset of addiction.

And he's just a vocal dr, it isn't a new break through,Even LPNs are taught the facts.
Would so rather be over educated that a knuckle dragging Neanderthal bereft of critical thought and imagination. Although in the case of Neanderthals, that's quite the insult.
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I said work camps are a good idea . I would have gone willingly. At least half this drug problem is a lack of good jobs . The other half is a lack of good dad's.
Now they want to take our guns away . That would be just fine. Take em away from the criminals first . Ill gladly give u mine. "Charlie Daniels"

You have got to stand for something . Or you will fall for anything "Aaron Tippin"
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Leifer wrote:Take off the "kid gloves"

- Pull the mental health cases into a facility.
- *Force* the junkies into rehab and then have them work off the costs associated with their rehabilitation.
- Give the junkies three tries at rehab....third fail wins you a bullet to the back of the head.

Yeah my taxes will have to go up to pay for it all....but these little lost sheep aren't going to sort themselves out now are they?


Do you include the thousands of "regular people" who also happen to be drug addicts in this plan? Or just the ones who are totally helpless? Lots of addicts in our community have a home, a job, a family...will you be executing them too? Or is being on the streets the only real crime here?

And you can't force someone to do a rehabilitation program anymore than you can force them to earn a university degree. You can lock them in a facility but you can't force them to work out their issues if they're not willing/able.

Your proposal wouldn't help anyone, although it would relieve you of the burden knowing that "they" are part of the same society as you are.
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